00:00:07 |
Michael Coghlan |
has joined the chat. |
00:00:35 |
Michael Coghlan |
Test |
00:01:02 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
has joined the chat. |
00:01:15 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Hi Michael |
00:02:11 |
Michael Coghlan |
Hello Daf |
00:02:28 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
where are the others? |
00:02:31 |
Michael Coghlan |
It's a smal chat room isn't it. |
00:02:40 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
a cozy one |
00:02:41 |
Michael Coghlan |
I hope the others are coming |
00:02:56 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Rita is here somewhere |
00:03:08 |
Michael Coghlan |
It will be hard to keep up when theyre
are lots of people in here |
00:03:16 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yeap |
00:03:39 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
under menu there is the private room feature
|
00:03:58 |
Michael Coghlan |
Yes - I'd like to try that when we'ree
all here |
00:04:21 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
We can change our user name, I do not know
where |
00:04:38 |
Michael Coghlan |
I don't either - probably in your profile
|
00:04:41 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I would like to use a shorter name |
00:04:52 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
only Dafne perhaps |
00:06:02 |
Michael Coghlan |
I can see that Rita is in the site somewhere
|
00:06:16 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes |
00:07:17 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
we can change font color |
00:07:35 |
Michael Coghlan |
has joined the chat. |
00:07:42 |
Michael Coghlan |
I'm back |
00:08:07 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I wonder if the others got lost |
00:08:14 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I lost my TI connection |
00:08:20 |
Michael Coghlan |
V is still trying to get in |
00:08:24 |
Susanne Nyrop |
has joined the chat. |
00:08:26 |
Michael Coghlan |
It's slow |
00:08:28 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
hi Sus |
00:08:29 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Hello hello |
00:08:38 |
Michael Coghlan |
Hi Susanne - well done |
00:08:50 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I had some messy trouble, so now I know
how i shall NOT do next time |
00:08:54 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I read your message in the discusson board,
Sus |
00:08:55 |
Susanne Nyrop |
:grins |
00:09:04 |
Susanne Nyrop |
That's a starter :-) |
00:09:12 |
Michael Coghlan |
How did you do that Susanne? I couldn't
find the post button |
00:09:20 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I think the discussion group is fine for
us |
00:09:35 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I have spent the whole morning reading
and listening to some of the materials posted in different events |
00:09:39 |
Susanne Nyrop |
But the format need a little patience |
00:10:02 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Did any of you check tghe Blog tool yet?
|
00:10:11 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Does not work from my site |
00:11:15 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I think they have not started sending comments
yet |
00:11:24 |
Michael Coghlan |
still trying to get V in here. And where's
Rita??? |
00:12:06 |
Susanne Nyrop |
WE might ask Rita in a message :-) |
00:12:25 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I sent her a message |
00:12:40 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
she has sent me a message asking how to
join us |
00:12:52 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Good! |
00:12:58 |
Michael Coghlan |
Can you explain to Rita? |
00:13:03 |
Michael Coghlan |
while I help Vance |
00:13:05 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Rita uploaded her picture |
00:13:13 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I like that we can see who's here |
00:13:17 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes, I told her we are in the chat |
00:13:36 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I think she is the the discussion section
|
00:13:51 |
Susanne Nyrop |
We got two chatrooms, one for each session
|
00:14:09 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I wonder if this chat can be logged and
saved |
00:15:07 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Did you know that about 2.200 participants
have registered? |
00:15:31 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes, I saw it this morning |
00:15:45 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I got here from my schedule |
00:15:56 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I like my calendar! |
00:16:09 |
Susanne Nyrop |
That is an easy way to manage all those
offers |
00:16:10 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
me too |
00:16:20 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
and the satchel too |
00:16:27 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
my is already collapsing |
00:16:28 |
Michael Coghlan |
still with V - it's Very slow for him |
00:16:30 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
mine |
00:16:50 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Rita has not answered my message |
00:17:23 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I have just sent her a yahoo message |
00:17:29 |
Susanne Nyrop |
No, Rita did not reply to my message either
|
00:18:17 |
Michael Coghlan |
v is having big problems |
00:18:25 |
Susanne Nyrop |
My Yahoo message is down for some reason
since last week, must have turned it off because it was annoying me, and
cannot find out how to get it back |
00:18:32 |
Michael Coghlan |
Think the conf erence chat closed his MSN
|
00:18:47 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Poor Vance, sitting that far away and in
virtual trouble |
00:19:32 |
Susanne Nyrop |
He talked about having one programme running
only because of bandwidth ( I guess) |
00:19:39 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
ok I talked to Rita in Yahoo |
00:19:45 |
Michael Coghlan |
I think we've lost Vance. And he had to
go to some cultural show there where he is |
00:19:52 |
Susanne Nyrop |
And what did our Rita say? |
00:19:59 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
she is coming |
00:20:05 |
Michael Coghlan |
Rita is not in Tapped in |
00:20:06 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
she did not know how to get to the chat
|
00:20:14 |
Michael Coghlan |
Does she know now? |
00:20:22 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
she said yes |
00:20:23 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Well, at least we did make it, the three
of us :-) |
00:20:29 |
Michael Coghlan |
t |
00:20:35 |
Michael Coghlan |
t |
00:20:41 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I had to leAve TI, too |
00:20:51 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
me too |
00:20:55 |
Michael Coghlan |
Message colour.... |
00:21:06 |
Michael Coghlan |
should change! |
00:21:29 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Daf, your name is not in the Who's here
|
00:21:31 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I am trying but do not know how |
00:21:35 |
Michael Coghlan |
colour..... |
00:21:44 |
Michael Coghlan |
Oh well... |
00:21:44 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Oh, how colorful :-) |
00:21:44 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
on my screen it is |
00:21:52 |
Michael Coghlan |
Ah - not on mine! |
00:21:55 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I see my name here |
00:22:00 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
not the color |
00:22:13 |
Michael Coghlan |
I don't see Daf either in the who's here
l,ist |
00:22:17 |
Susanne Nyrop |
In the discussion format, I tried to make
bold characters and active links ... |
00:22:28 |
Susanne Nyrop |
but it did not show like that. |
00:22:34 |
Michael Coghlan |
I see me, Susanne, and Rita! |
00:22:40 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Well you are all here on my list |
00:22:58 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Michael, did you find some way to save
this chat log yet? |
00:23:28 |
Michael Coghlan |
No - but I think that it will probably
be automatic - it is usually is in conferences |
00:23:49 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
changing color |
00:23:55 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
did it! |
00:24:15 |
Michael Coghlan |
Daf - are yopu talking to Rita on Yahoo
or similar? |
00:24:23 |
Michael Coghlan |
I see Daf in green now |
00:24:29 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
on yahoo |
00:24:48 |
Michael Coghlan |
I wonder what the problem is for her.....
|
00:25:06 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I look red? |
00:25:16 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
no, Sus |
00:25:23 |
Michael Coghlan |
Yes you do |
00:25:24 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Rita is having a problem |
00:25:32 |
Michael Coghlan |
What is it? |
00:25:35 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I am asking |
00:26:17 |
Susanne Nyrop |
getting around the different formats is
a little tricky, I feel |
00:26:19 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I gave her the url |
00:26:43 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
has joined the chat. |
00:26:43 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
the best way to go around is through your
schedule |
00:26:48 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
hi Rita |
00:26:54 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
you finally made it |
00:26:59 |
Michael Coghlan |
You made it Rita - well done |
00:27:03 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
wsorry, peolp, had a problem with my mailbox...
|
00:27:08 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I would also love a larger chat text field
- I can read only 13 lines at a time |
00:27:12 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Oh, Rita! |
00:27:16 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Hugs to you' |
00:27:21 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
(thanks, dear Daf!) |
00:27:34 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
:hugs Rita |
00:27:36 |
Michael Coghlan |
Me too Susanne - the window is quit small.
I don't likre it |
00:28:08 |
Michael Coghlan |
OK I want to try the private room feature
|
00:28:15 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
ok |
00:28:20 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Anyway, I am so very happy that I CAN make
it here from my homely mac connection |
00:28:21 |
Michael Coghlan |
I'll ask someone to join me there. OK?
|
00:28:29 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Ok |
00:28:30 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
fine |
00:28:37 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
ok, Michael |
00:28:58 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Rita do you see my name online on your
Who's here? |
00:29:15 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
yes, Micchael |
00:29:37 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
not now... |
00:29:43 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Daf, I still don't see your name, so i
would not be able to invite you |
00:30:18 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Oh, interesting .- they left for the private
room and lost connection here |
00:30:32 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
where is it, Sus? |
00:30:54 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Michael has invited daf - read the HELP
file |
00:31:08 |
Michael Coghlan |
has joined the chat. |
00:31:13 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I want to save this chat! But we do not
know how to do so |
00:31:20 |
Michael Coghlan |
Back again - did I disappear? |
00:31:25 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
has joined the chat. |
00:31:25 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Yes you did |
00:31:33 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
hi I am back |
00:31:36 |
Susanne Nyrop |
both of you vanished |
00:31:47 |
Michael Coghlan |
OK - so you can only be one chat at a time
|
00:32:04 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes, it is not like in yahoo |
00:32:17 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
how to go to the private chat, Michael'
|
00:32:46 |
Susanne Nyrop |
t |
00:33:12 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
and when you go back to the first one,
you have lost all the previous text |
00:33:21 |
Michael Coghlan |
I seleceted a name and then the private
room option from the scroll donwmenu |
00:33:32 |
Michael Coghlan |
Yes Daf - that's correct |
00:33:35 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
thanks, Mike |
00:33:45 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I cannot save this, and i would love to.
|
00:34:00 |
Michael Coghlan |
Can I try getting 2 people in a private
room? |
00:34:01 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
t |
00:34:09 |
Susanne Nyrop |
We do not get the chatlog mailed, i have
been here before |
00:34:19 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
me too |
00:34:26 |
Michael Coghlan |
I'll try Suanne and Rita |
00:34:35 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
the only way is copying and pasting, maybe
|
00:34:38 |
Susanne Nyrop |
And, i cannot select aand copy either |
00:34:53 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
i cant, either |
00:34:54 |
Michael Coghlan |
JNope - cant' get 2 people into a private
rooom |
00:34:56 |
Susanne Nyrop |
That's what i thought of, too |
00:34:59 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
And, i cannot select aand copy either |
00:35:11 |
Susanne Nyrop |
And, i cannot select aand copy either |
00:35:21 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
you know, what you wrote, appeared on my
text window |
00:35:21 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Hey, what is that |
00:36:04 |
Michael Coghlan |
Yes - if you click on someone else's text
it comes to your own window - strange |
00:36:10 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
if you put your cursor over a sentence,
it goes to your text window |
00:36:19 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
lol |
00:36:20 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I have been to the webcrossing chat software
homepage, they do not mention the save option |
00:36:36 |
Susanne Nyrop |
if you put your cursor over a sentence,
it goes to your text window |
00:36:39 |
Michael Coghlan |
Is this WebCrossign software Susanne? |
00:36:39 |
Susanne Nyrop |
grins |
00:36:46 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
grins |
00:36:51 |
Susanne Nyrop |
That is a parrot function |
00:36:57 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
That is a parrot function |
00:36:58 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Yes, it is |
00:37:00 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
:grins |
00:37:07 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
lol |
00:37:10 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Did you check out the help files? |
00:37:16 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
i did |
00:37:20 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes, i did |
00:37:35 |
Susanne Nyrop |
We might ask some techie about this |
00:37:41 |
Michael Coghlan |
No mention of chat logs or similar |
00:37:45 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
no |
00:37:46 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Nope |
00:37:53 |
Michael Coghlan |
Yes we should. I will if you like |
00:37:54 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Too silly :-( |
00:38:04 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Please do, Mike |
00:38:13 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
its Microsoft general help, it says |
00:38:32 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
so, how will we deal with the chat event?
|
00:38:32 |
Michael Coghlan |
Well that's all I can do for now. I have
to go. |
00:38:36 |
Susanne Nyrop |
(o-O) may we call you Mike? |
00:38:39 |
Michael Coghlan |
OKn - Daf has a q! |
00:38:41 |
Susanne Nyrop |
OK, |
00:39:09 |
Michael Coghlan |
You can call me anyhting Susanne. Most
people call me Michael but I don't mind Mike |
00:39:35 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
if we split in different rooms we will
be isolated from the others |
00:39:43 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
(sorry, Michael, just called you Mike without
asking...) |
00:39:50 |
Susanne Nyrop |
We can continue exploring this tech aspect
of the conference in the discussion group I think? |
00:40:05 |
Michael Coghlan |
Re the chat session Daf - I think it is
reasonabley clear now- We seeem to agree on the basic format in our email
discussions oveer the last few days |
00:40:27 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes, that is clear |
00:40:46 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Yes - I suggest that private chatrooms
are not very useful during this session - unless you have lots and lots
of people and wish them to get together in pairs |
00:41:03 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Clear to me, too |
00:41:12 |
Michael Coghlan |
I'll be online tomorrow at this time if
you have any questions then. I agree Susanne |
00:41:13 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
yes, its clear now |
00:41:24 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I'll try to meet you then |
00:41:25 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
so, we will stay here |
00:41:36 |
Susanne Nyrop |
What time do you have now, Micahel? |
00:41:39 |
Michael Coghlan |
I might check if I can add some other chat
rooms though inca se we get a lot of people |
00:41:40 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
meet you here, then tomorrow, same time
|
00:41:52 |
Michael Coghlan |
Here now it is 11.14 pm |
00:42:06 |
Susanne Nyrop |
!5:42 here |
00:42:16 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
same here |
00:42:16 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
10.45 am |
00:42:24 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Good! |
00:42:37 |
Michael Coghlan |
And it's about 7 pm in Inmdia for Vance
|
00:42:48 |
Susanne Nyrop |
yes |
00:43:01 |
Michael Coghlan |
OK. Everyone feeling happy? |
00:43:09 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes, |
00:43:12 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
excited |
00:43:13 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
yes... |
00:43:13 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Very happy about this opportunity |
00:43:15 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
thrilled |
00:43:24 |
Michael Coghlan |
Me too. Might also be a bit scary! |
00:43:29 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
many interesting events in the conference
|
00:43:32 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
I knoW!!!! |
00:43:40 |
Susanne Nyrop |
New places are always a challenge |
00:43:46 |
Michael Coghlan |
But webheads have coped woth this kind
of things before. We'll be fine |
00:43:53 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
sure |
00:44:10 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
feel m ore confident now |
00:44:10 |
Susanne Nyrop |
That is a good luggage to travel with,
and good company, too |
00:44:33 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
so, see you all tomorrow |
00:44:34 |
Michael Coghlan |
OK - I have one more thign to do befoire
I go to bed so I'd better and go and do it. See here tomorrow night if we
need |
00:44:40 |
Susanne Nyrop |
A kind of fellowship is developing |
00:44:45 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
the discussion starts tomorrow, right?
|
00:44:49 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Sleep tight, Mike |
00:44:50 |
Michael Coghlan |
Goodnight from down here |
00:44:57 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
night, Michael |
00:44:59 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
good night, Mike! |
00:44:59 |
Michael Coghlan |
Have a nice day Rita! |
00:45:09 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
thanks, Mike |
00:45:25 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
this is exciting! |
00:45:30 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
ok, Daf, you saved my skin today... |
00:45:38 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I already opened the discussion :-) |
00:45:53 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes, and it is sent to our email |
00:46:04 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Yes, Rita, it is so good to know how we
can guide each other to the right place |
00:46:19 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I have to check why I am not seeing online
by you |
00:46:29 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yahoo is always handy |
00:46:31 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Maybe you should logoff and return? |
00:46:32 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
im far from a techie... |
00:46:49 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I am even farther |
00:46:56 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Rita, neither am I - but together we are
stronger |
00:47:05 |
Susanne Nyrop |
:grins |
00:47:09 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
collaboration and interaction |
00:47:37 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
its really incredible to be sharing so
much... |
00:47:38 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Expore and experience |
00:47:48 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
t |
00:47:53 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
i had a ppt present and talk |
00:47:53 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Explore & etc :-) |
00:47:57 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
last saturday |
00:48:06 |
Susanne Nyrop |
:listen to Rit |
00:48:06 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
and talked about you... |
00:48:23 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
what was your pres. about Rita? |
00:48:36 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
the topic was CCM tools for lang learning
|
00:48:54 |
Susanne Nyrop |
A very familiar topic :-) |
00:48:54 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
and teachers were amazed! |
00:49:13 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
nobody knew anything about it |
00:49:25 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
it also happenend at Michael's pres. on
tuesday |
00:49:34 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
so a MOO seemed like a topic of next century
|
00:50:00 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
(felt so proud...;-)) |
00:50:05 |
Susanne Nyrop |
:smiles, same here, people nearly do not
beleive me when i try to explain how strong this networking can be |
00:50:23 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
mainly thec PEOPLE |
00:50:33 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
the people, you, i mean |
00:50:47 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
alwais ready to give, share, |
00:50:54 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
guide |
00:50:55 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I am always talking about Webheads to all
my friends |
00:51:11 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Did you go for the upcoming betatesting
of the newTapped In environment? |
00:51:32 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
no, what is it about, Sus? |
00:51:34 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
no, Sus..., where? |
00:51:40 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I could not resist the temptation |
00:52:22 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Well, I might have been invited, I thought
it was on a general invitation to the community |
00:52:46 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Donna knows about it, and Judi and BJ,
of course |
00:53:03 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
what do you have to do? |
00:53:31 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
Im all eyes... |
00:53:38 |
Susanne Nyrop |
We're gonna have a brand new interface,
I think it is UNIX Based, not a MOO - but many of the beloved fulctions
|
00:53:57 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I guess I have to participate and tell
wshat I feel about it |
00:54:04 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
whats the difference, Sus? |
00:54:10 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
what are the new features? |
00:54:11 |
Susanne Nyrop |
They have spoken about this for more than
a year |
00:54:18 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes, I have heard |
00:54:27 |
Susanne Nyrop |
It will be tested from next month |
00:54:41 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I will keep you oriented, then |
00:54:47 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Will we keep our offices? |
00:54:55 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Well... |
00:55:45 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I really hope offices Will still be there
|
00:56:06 |
Susanne Nyrop |
and there will be a drawboard, and a sound/voice
chat tool |
00:56:30 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I've seen a glimpse some time ago |
00:56:56 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I heard we will not have our pets there
|
00:57:07 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
will it have a different look, then |
00:57:24 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
btw, the new yahoo messenger has a drawboard
|
00:57:34 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Yes, no pets allowed any mmore :-) |
00:57:36 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I downloaded it yesterday |
00:57:45 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Cool! |
00:58:13 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
have you uesd it, Daf, same as others?
|
00:58:15 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I imagine that food will not be allowed
either |
00:58:25 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
ll |
00:58:26 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I used it with a student last night |
00:58:27 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
lol |
00:58:36 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I have also seen that there is a beta version
fcr a new yahoo messenger for macintosh, with a webcam function!!! |
00:58:56 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
wow, youll be able to use that, Sus! |
00:59:00 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I need a toliet break, girls |
00:59:09 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
it is not as good as the groupboard, but
it is fun |
00:59:21 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I need a lunch break |
00:59:39 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
see you tomorrow? |
00:59:42 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
(and hubby is restless ...) |
00:59:54 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
yes, girls! |
01:00:01 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
enjoy oyur Sun! |
01:00:01 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
what time? |
01:00:25 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I am always worried about the time |
01:00:40 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
at least 2 hs before now ill be here |
01:00:55 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
(if im clear ;-)) |
01:01:00 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
noon GMT |
01:01:05 |
Susanne Nyrop |
OK, see ya |
01:01:09 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
cool! |
01:01:13 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
bye Girls |
01:01:20 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
bye! |
01:01:20 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
nice sharing once more |
01:01:23 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
hugs!! |
01:01:38 |
Susanne Nyrop |
:hugs the two of you |
01:01:50 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
kisses Sus and Rita |
01:01:56 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Yes, this was a good session, after all
|
01:02:04 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
.hugs and kisses 2 friends |
01:02:09 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
bfn |
01:02:16 |
Susanne Nyrop |
See you |
01:02:28 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
(no icons to click...) |
01:02:47 |
Susanne Nyrop |
No nothing |
01:02:58 |
Susanne Nyrop |
It is just naked |
01:03:10 |
Susanne Nyrop |
has joined the chat. |
01:03:19 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
has joined the chat. |
01:03:53 |
Susanne Nyrop |
has joined the chat. |
01:04:06 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Oh, hello Daf :-) |
01:04:21 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I'm still not very confortable here. |
01:04:53 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
hi |
01:05:02 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I was sending a message to Chris |
01:05:31 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I have been trying to participate in a
discussion but the message board has no reply button |
01:06:07 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Ours do, because I answered yours a while
ago |
01:06:28 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Well, I do think I found a reply button
in our discussion, but do not ask me how :-) |
01:06:35 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Yes, I read your reply |
01:07:05 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
the button was just there, under the message,
but in this discussion there was only the help button |
01:07:24 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I love our good old Tapped In better and
better :-) |
01:07:33 |
Chris Jones |
has joined the chat. |
01:07:37 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes |
01:07:38 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Mysterious - did you subscribe to it yet?
|
01:07:41 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
hi Chris |
01:07:43 |
Susanne Nyrop |
:hugs Chris |
01:07:57 |
Susanne Nyrop |
welcome among friends |
01:08:01 |
Chris Jones |
Hi, Dafne and Susanne, I found my way here!
|
01:08:11 |
Susanne Nyrop |
yes, you sure did :-) |
01:08:11 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
good for you! |
01:08:43 |
Chris Jones |
I also discovered the Guide which helps
me understand the satchel, etc. better. |
01:08:48 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I feel kind of claustrophobic here |
01:09:09 |
Chris Jones |
Did you get the packet that was mailed
out? If so, what is in it? |
01:09:10 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
my satchel is already crowded |
01:09:23 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
no, I have not gotten it yet |
01:09:25 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Daf, for what ourposze do you like that
satchel? |
01:09:50 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
because I have the documents I need to
read handy |
01:10:07 |
Susanne Nyrop |
In the packet is: a mouse mat, a plastic
bag, a clock in cardbolard to put on your door... |
01:10:07 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
without jumping from event to event. |
01:10:30 |
Chris Jones |
I'm glad to try out this chat. I was afraid
I'd need to download something. |
01:10:56 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
no, the site is pretty cool, except for
this chat |
01:11:04 |
Susanne Nyrop |
some pages that you can read online...
a nd a CD-rom that I cannot open on Mac - but it contains some help programmes
for windows, plus the sound files so that you can hear speakers offline.
|
01:11:34 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I have been listening and reading a lot
these last two days |
01:11:50 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
there are very interesting events and materials
|
01:11:58 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I lkie the conference a lot - remember
that our WIA fellowship role is always to be the critical test user :-)
|
01:12:06 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yeap |
01:12:23 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Yes, I lkie the broad mix of many teaching
aspects |
01:12:31 |
Chris Jones |
I was surprised that some events don't
have a paper, just a discussion topic with a few paragraphs to explain it.
|
01:12:52 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
while others have lots of materials |
01:13:02 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Chris, I thiink that many of the presenters
are very practically oriented teachers |
01:13:23 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I am trying to vote in the poll next to
this window, but get an error |
01:13:25 |
Chris Jones |
I was looking to see if you can print out
the chat, but I don't see how. |
01:13:32 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I like that there is a variety of formats,
too |
01:13:46 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
no, we tried this afternoon. |
01:13:47 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Chris, trhat is the very point - you can't!!!
|
01:13:59 |
Susanne Nyrop |
At lease WE do not know yet how to do so.
|
01:14:19 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I do not see any way to save the messenger
neither |
01:14:22 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
and if you go to a private room, you miss
all the information in the main room |
01:14:52 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Yes, that is too bad. I think that webCroissing
is an older tool that has had a brush-up |
01:14:53 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
when you come back the previous text is
missing |
01:15:29 |
Chris Jones |
Dafne, your message comes out green on
my screen. How did you change the color? |
01:15:36 |
Susanne Nyrop |
In the menu |
01:16:05 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I'm now typing in red |
01:16:21 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Good effect |
01:16:28 |
Chris Jones |
I tried to change mine to red. |
01:16:34 |
Chris Jones |
but it didn't work. |
01:16:54 |
Susanne Nyrop |
You will have to decide HOW red, zero or
100 % |
01:16:56 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
try the key F9 |
01:17:26 |
Chris Jones |
Let me type first then choose a color.
|
01:17:52 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Try the opposite way round, Chris |
01:17:55 |
Chris Jones |
Is this blue? |
01:18:03 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
no |
01:18:11 |
Susanne Nyrop |
The color shows as you type so you have
to try again |
01:18:14 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
you will see the color on the top |
01:18:24 |
Chris Jones |
It doesn't work either way. How do i Put
in the 100%? |
01:18:37 |
Susanne Nyrop |
This is Green 151 |
01:18:43 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
click in the bar in the middle until you
get the color you want |
01:18:46 |
Susanne Nyrop |
There is a scroll bar |
01:19:21 |
Susanne Nyrop |
This is a mix of all three colors |
01:19:49 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
let me check this color |
01:19:49 |
Chris Jones |
Hmm. Not working. |
01:20:11 |
Susanne Nyrop |
t |
01:20:30 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
t |
01:20:30 |
Chris Jones |
O.K. I finally got it! ;-) |
01:20:38 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
great |
01:20:39 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Blue blue |
01:20:55 |
Susanne Nyrop |
At least this is functional :-) |
01:21:13 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I took a screenshot |
01:21:21 |
Chris Jones |
I guess you could also type in the color
number if you knew it. |
01:21:31 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes, I guess so |
01:21:40 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Theoretically one could take a shot for
the most important messages |
01:21:59 |
Susanne Nyrop |
ccc |
01:21:59 |
Chris Jones |
Yes, but the message screen is small. |
01:22:10 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
for our chat we can have different font
colors to recognize our messages |
01:22:24 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
veryyyyyyy small |
01:22:38 |
Susanne Nyrop |
It is very small, I can only read 13 lines
at a time. I miss the pasteboard and the detaqch function from my tapestry
|
01:23:05 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
there is a parrot function |
01:23:12 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
It is very small, I can only read 13 lines
at a time. I miss the pasteboard and the detaqch function from my tapestry
|
01:23:12 |
Susanne Nyrop |
there is a parrot function |
01:23:19 |
Chris Jones |
At least, you can scroll back to the beginning
if you want. |
01:23:19 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
lol |
01:23:20 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Grins |
01:23:34 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yeap |
01:23:36 |
Chris Jones |
What is a parrot function? |
01:23:42 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Grins |
01:23:45 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
What is a parrot function? |
01:24:03 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
click on a message and it will be copied
|
01:24:14 |
Chris Jones |
click on a message and it will be copied
|
01:24:19 |
Chris Jones |
Cool! |
01:25:09 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
have you tried the poll on your right?
|
01:25:17 |
Susanne Nyrop |
it does not work for me |
01:25:28 |
Susanne Nyrop |
The poll give me an error message |
01:25:33 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
same here |
01:25:45 |
Chris Jones |
I haven't tried the poll yet. |
01:26:19 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
have you seen the cool tools section, Sus
|
01:26:38 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I downloaded a crossword generator |
01:26:44 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I also find that it is annoying that one
cannot meet strangers spontaneously here in the chatroom - we miss a kind
of reception or water cooler corner |
01:27:02 |
Susanne Nyrop |
ALL cool tools are for Windows I am afraid.
|
01:27:06 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes, there should be a general chat room
|
01:27:38 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
like a cafe, or a bar |
01:27:45 |
Susanne Nyrop |
We ought to tell them how much we miss
that :-) |
01:27:46 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
for informal conversations |
01:28:01 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes :-)) |
01:28:56 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Well, anyway, now we do know that we can
use many things here, and learn a lot about how to do - and how to make
it better :-)) |
01:29:12 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes |
01:29:18 |
Susanne Nyrop |
It is very fine to be testing as a team
|
01:29:34 |
Susanne Nyrop |
we lost Chris - did she say goodbye? |
01:29:38 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
we are a great "exploring" team |
01:29:51 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I don't think so |
01:30:04 |
Susanne Nyrop |
One gets into a certain kind of habit,
wshen it comes to usability tesating :-) |
01:30:31 |
Susanne Nyrop |
did you ever read Donald Norman? |
01:30:56 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
no, I lost the paper when I got the virus
in my desk top computer |
01:31:08 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I lost many papers |
01:31:30 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I am not using my backflip |
01:31:39 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
shame on me :-(( |
01:32:19 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
many discussions are now open |
01:32:24 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
including ours |
01:32:48 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Yes, ours are open |
01:33:35 |
Susanne Nyrop |
i stopped the backfilp and turned to iKeepBookmarks,
for me they're easier to edit |
01:33:46 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I wonder if you go to another section you
get out of the chat |
01:33:51 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Too bad abolut losing papers |
01:34:04 |
Chris Jones |
has joined the chat. |
01:34:07 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yeap |
01:34:13 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
wb, Chris |
01:34:19 |
Susanne Nyrop |
yes, I think you do get thrown off, unless
you open a new page |
01:34:29 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Chris, nice to see you again |
01:34:29 |
Chris Jones |
Sorry, I voted in the poll and then couldn't
get back into the chat. |
01:34:40 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I imagined that |
01:34:53 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Girs |
01:35:10 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
if you save our discussion in your schedule
it is easy to come here from there |
01:35:12 |
Chris Jones |
When I voted, I got a message that I had
already voted and that 17 other people had voted. |
01:35:28 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
did you get the results? |
01:35:35 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Girls, I have a surprise : i have taken
screenshots of this whole conversation, window by window |
01:35:45 |
Chris Jones |
O.K. I'll try that next time. |
01:35:47 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I still see that only one has taken that
poll |
01:35:57 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
but screenshots are very heavy files |
01:36:08 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
me too, Sus |
01:36:13 |
Chris Jones |
It showed up in a new window after I voted.
Then I couldn't get back to the chat. |
01:36:28 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Yes, I know, screenshots cannot be used
for much |
01:36:34 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I am going to try |
01:36:47 |
Chris Jones |
This window with the chat in the middle
says only 1 person has voted so far. |
01:36:49 |
Susanne Nyrop |
She left us |
01:36:53 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
has joined the chat. |
01:37:01 |
Susanne Nyrop |
She's back :-) |
01:37:02 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I am back |
01:37:13 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
same error message |
01:37:16 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Is it the same poll? |
01:37:16 |
Chris Jones |
You were quick. What happened? |
01:37:22 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
then click on the back button |
01:37:37 |
Chris Jones |
My question is How often do you use live
chats? |
01:37:51 |
Susanne Nyrop |
same here |
01:38:09 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I voted for "daily" and it says there that
my vote was "abstain" |
01:38:12 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Did you vore for daily or weekly? |
01:38:16 |
Chris Jones |
I'm using IE 6.0. Maybe that makes a difference.
|
01:38:17 |
Susanne Nyrop |
ROFL |
01:38:19 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
then, below there is a message error |
01:38:31 |
Chris Jones |
I voted for monthly. |
01:38:41 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I'm using IE 5.0 that should be enough
|
01:38:56 |
Susanne Nyrop |
well, Daf and I are in the habit |
01:38:56 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
how do I know which one I am using? |
01:39:12 |
Chris Jones |
When I got bumped, I tried to get in using
Netscape 4.74, and that didn't work at all. |
01:39:14 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
now, my students contact me everyday |
01:39:34 |
Susanne Nyrop |
They still do? |
01:39:37 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yeap |
01:39:44 |
Susanne Nyrop |
you have created bonding |
01:40:01 |
Susanne Nyrop |
and friendship |
01:40:05 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
they call me to try new tools, and to ask
questions |
01:40:12 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
and just to say hello |
01:40:22 |
Susanne Nyrop |
that's a wonderful follow of your engagement
|
01:40:23 |
Chris Jones |
At the top of your IE screen, look under
Help/About Internet Explorer. However, it will take you to a different page
and maybe out of chat. |
01:40:25 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
they even give me reports about the political
situation in my country |
01:40:35 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Open a new window |
01:41:12 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I often work in more winows to prevent
from getting logeed off somewhere |
01:41:36 |
Chris Jones |
I think it's great that Dafne's course
is going so well using so many of the things we learned in webheads. |
01:42:12 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Yes! That was a very helpful teamwork we
developed during those eight weeks |
01:42:37 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Learning by doing, just in time |
01:42:42 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I have version 5 |
01:42:54 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
We have a new message in our discussion
board |
01:42:55 |
Chris Jones |
I just opened a new window to the blogging.
Have you tried it? |
01:43:04 |
Susanne Nyrop |
That should be perfect, according to the
intro file' |
01:43:15 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Can you blog? |
01:44:06 |
Chris Jones |
No to blogging. I just learned a little
about it from webheads. |
01:44:45 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Sus, we have a reply to our messages on
timezones |
01:45:03 |
Susanne Nyrop |
But I asked bec ause I was not even able
to get to this Blog site before. Now I see that it is open, but still not
for entries |
01:45:25 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I do have a blog somewhere else that i
have not folloed up |
01:45:42 |
Susanne Nyrop |
but this blog seem to be like the water
cooler we were askfing for |
01:45:57 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Yes, daf |
01:46:24 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Who has sent a reply? |
01:46:28 |
Chris Jones |
So far there are not entries. |
01:46:34 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Nancy White |
01:46:51 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Nancy white!!! She's a legend! |
01:46:54 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Cool |
01:46:58 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
is she? |
01:47:32 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Those gaps of timezones can also make some
folks feel left out of the rhythm of a group which is predominantly in a
cluster of closer timezones. You can "miss" a conversation or feel it has
passed you by, even in an asynchronous setting. Do you think that setting
some ground rules around response times helps this, or just artificially
stifles? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|
01:47:41 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
that's her message |
01:47:46 |
Susanne Nyrop |
yes, very famous in the field (at leasdt
I do remember her name from other places) |
01:48:02 |
Susanne Nyrop |
A very good start of our discussion. |
01:48:16 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I guess michael will be happy, too |
01:48:21 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yeap |
01:48:41 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
what time is it now in Australia? |
01:48:56 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Did you make rules for respond time, daf,
in your architecture class? |
01:49:00 |
Chris Jones |
I was off looking up Nancy's post. |
01:49:21 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
no, I did not |
01:49:25 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Well, I think it is 07:30 AEST |
01:49:43 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Michael is still sleeping |
01:49:47 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Chris, what timezone do you have? |
01:50:06 |
Susanne Nyrop |
We're working for him while he is asleep
|
01:50:06 |
Chris Jones |
I've felt left out of the Tapped In sessions
as I just can't make it out of bed AND be coherent at 5 a.m. my time. |
01:50:40 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I would feel the same way |
01:50:41 |
Chris Jones |
I'm on Arizona Standard Time, the same
a Pacific Daylight Time. |
01:50:49 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I can understand, Webheads Sunday class
is for a diffeerent timezone that yours :-) |
01:51:17 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I often feel very lost in Tapped In before
i met webheads because most sessions were in the middle of MY night |
01:51:32 |
Chris Jones |
Still I'd like to participate. That's why
I did a lot the week of TESOL when everything was in my timezone. |
01:52:04 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Then I guess you would not like to meet
Michael and us here, tomorrow morning at 5 am? |
01:52:17 |
Chris Jones |
Elizabeth H did a discussion in Tapped
In at a very good time. That's the only practice I've had. |
01:52:29 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I am eagerly waiting for the next EVOnline
sessions |
01:52:46 |
Chris Jones |
5 a.m. who's time? and are you talking
about Monday or Tuesday? It's Sunday here. |
01:52:54 |
Susanne Nyrop |
You can easily find relevant sessions in
tapped In to join, in Arizona-friendly hours |
01:52:55 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
a little bit disappointed because Vance
will not be the moderator |
01:53:17 |
Chris Jones |
Suzanne, that's true, but I just haven't
taken the time. |
01:53:27 |
Susanne Nyrop |
WE decided to make a nother try tomorrow,
at 12 GMT |
01:53:28 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
it is still Sunday here |
01:53:48 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Michael has to follow the forum discussion
|
01:54:16 |
Chris Jones |
Monday is a crazy day for me. My first
class is at 10:50 a.m., and my last one ends at 9:30. |
01:54:31 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Daf, Michael is in his Aussie environment
|
01:54:45 |
Susanne Nyrop |
well, Chris, now you made it, with us today
|
01:55:02 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Sus, your name is not under who's here
|
01:55:16 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Did I disappear, how weird |
01:55:23 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yeap |
01:55:30 |
Chris Jones |
Neither of your names show under Who's
Here. |
01:55:46 |
Chris Jones |
I think it's because we're in chat. |
01:55:48 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I see mine and Chris |
01:55:59 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Hm. I think they're still having a few
bugs around |
01:56:26 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I see you two,plsu cath, mary, Noel & Virginia
|
01:56:53 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I have Ian Phillips and Chris Alexander
|
01:57:05 |
Susanne Nyrop |
And, i wonder who THey are |
01:57:14 |
Chris Jones |
I've got 2 windows open. They show different
names. I think the Who's here doesn't Refresh on its own. |
01:57:20 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Incredible, so this is not very reliable
|
01:57:34 |
Chris Jones |
I have the same as Dafne. |
01:57:46 |
Susanne Nyrop |
interesting theory, Chris |
01:57:47 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
that's weird |
01:58:05 |
Susanne Nyrop |
has joined the chat. |
01:58:18 |
Chris Jones |
When I got bumped out of chat, I tried
to send youboth a live message, and it came back that you weren't available.
|
01:58:27 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I updated, and lost my chat |
01:58:35 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I got it after you had joined us |
01:58:54 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
how do you update? |
01:58:57 |
Chris Jones |
That's good. I thought it just bounced
back to me. |
01:59:18 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
but messages take a while |
01:59:30 |
Susanne Nyrop |
By now i see peter holloman, Robby W, Maryanne
R, Jan Whitaker, and chris (but No Daf) |
01:59:53 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
how do you update? |
01:59:58 |
Susanne Nyrop |
In my button bar of the IE browser, here
is an update function |
02:00:15 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I thought it was here |
02:00:29 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I thought you did |
02:00:30 |
Chris Jones |
I have only Robby, Vivian, and Maryann.
|
02:00:30 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
has joined the chat. |
02:00:39 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
did the same |
02:01:04 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
now I have a bunch of people there |
02:01:07 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Well, by now i got enough, it is close
to Danish midnight |
02:01:09 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Sus included |
02:01:15 |
Susanne Nyrop |
You do? |
02:01:21 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yeap |
02:01:35 |
Susanne Nyrop |
They should have some bug report mailbox
somewhere |
02:02:05 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
maybe on the home page |
02:02:14 |
Susanne Nyrop |
:hugs you goog |
02:02:15 |
Chris Jones |
Maybe you could just report it to Support
Services. |
02:02:20 |
Susanne Nyrop |
dnight |
02:02:26 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I got to go too |
02:02:26 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Goodnite :-) |
02:02:32 |
Chris Jones |
Nice talking to you both. |
02:02:37 |
Susanne Nyrop |
YES |
02:02:37 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
same here |
02:02:47 |
Chris Jones |
Till later in the week. |
02:02:50 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
sleep tight |
02:02:54 |
Susanne Nyrop |
See you later, and keep the kettle b io
|
02:03:05 |
Susanne Nyrop |
boiling in the discussion area |
02:03:11 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
you too |
02:03:17 |
Susanne Nyrop |
sweet dreams |
02:03:26 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
same to you, Sus |
02:03:45 |
Susanne Nyrop |
has joined the chat. |
02:03:49 |
Fiona Hennig |
has joined the chat. |
02:03:57 |
Aiden Yeh |
has joined the chat. |
02:05:37 |
Aiden Yeh 4 |
has joined the chat. |
02:12:31 |
Aiden Yeh |
has joined the chat. |
02:12:31 |
Rose Grozdanic |
has joined the chat. |
02:12:45 |
Rose Grozdanic |
this is a test |
02:12:49 |
Rose Grozdanic |
speaking to myself |
02:12:49 |
Rose Grozdanic |
has joined the chat. |
02:13:02 |
Maryanne Richardson |
has joined the chat. |
02:13:11 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
has joined the chat. |
02:13:27 |
Dafne Gonzalez 2 |
has joined the chat. |
02:14:00 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
has joined the chat. |
02:14:20 |
Michael Coghlan |
has joined the chat. |
02:14:29 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
hi Michael |
02:14:40 |
Michael Coghlan |
Hi Dafne. Vance is trying to come here
again |
02:14:52 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes, I just sent him a message |
02:15:19 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
he is in the site already |
02:15:46 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
We have had a great participation |
02:16:27 |
Michael Coghlan |
Yes it's good isn't it! V is having trouble....
|
02:17:41 |
Michael Coghlan |
Baack in a minute Daf |
02:18:03 |
Michael Coghlan |
has joined the chat. |
02:19:36 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I am talking to VAnce on MSN |
02:19:44 |
Michael Coghlan |
Me too |
02:20:29 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I had some problems last night getting
to some events, I had to unregister and then register again to have access
to the discussions |
02:20:46 |
Michael Coghlan |
That sounds frustrating |
02:21:09 |
Vance Stevens |
has joined the chat. |
02:21:14 |
Michael Coghlan |
Hooray! |
02:21:32 |
Vance Stevens |
does this work |
02:21:37 |
Michael Coghlan |
Yep |
02:21:41 |
Vance Stevens |
yep, got it |
02:21:43 |
Vance Stevens |
yep, got it |
02:21:44 |
Michael Coghlan |
Phew |
02:21:50 |
Michael Coghlan |
God bless India |
02:22:30 |
Vance Stevens |
ok |
02:22:45 |
Vance Stevens |
daf apparently can't get here |
02:22:52 |
Michael Coghlan |
Daf is here! |
02:23:09 |
Michael Coghlan |
Can you see here name - I can |
02:23:12 |
Vance Stevens |
no because it's a pain typing in two windows
|
02:23:30 |
Michael Coghlan |
It's a lousy chat space I must say |
02:23:40 |
Vance Stevens |
so is this where we discourse on Wed? |
02:23:51 |
Vance Stevens |
pretty poor |
02:23:51 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
hi Vance |
02:23:53 |
Michael Coghlan |
But you can eject folks! |
02:24:05 |
Vance Stevens |
anyway, this is where we go, right? |
02:24:08 |
Michael Coghlan |
Yes this is where we meet on Wed |
02:24:23 |
Vance Stevens |
hi daf |
02:24:33 |
Vance Stevens |
ok, I've got to get offline now |
02:24:35 |
Vance Stevens |
ok, I've got to get offline now |
02:24:42 |
Vance Stevens |
my son wants to eat |
02:24:51 |
Vance Stevens |
so do I |
02:24:57 |
Michael Coghlan |
OK. If you get time (and you probably won't)
the discusisons have got off to a good start |
02:24:57 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I am cooking |
02:25:13 |
Michael Coghlan |
have a nice Indian feast for me |
02:25:27 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
have a good time, Vance |
02:25:42 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
We were here with Chris last night |
02:25:47 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Sus and I |
02:25:57 |
Michael Coghlan |
Thanks for your input in the discussions
today Daf - it's really good to see so much activity oin day one |
02:26:05 |
Vance Stevens |
anyway I'm off, see you wednesday |
02:26:12 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
bye, Vance |
02:26:29 |
Michael Coghlan |
Byr Vance - see you then. I'll be early
oif you want a hadn getting in or something |
02:26:54 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I think we were the first event to get
messages |
02:26:58 |
Michael Coghlan |
I have to go for a while Daf. Be back later
|
02:27:06 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
fine, see you |
02:27:08 |
Michael Coghlan |
Yes we were. Bye |
02:27:32 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
has joined the chat. |
02:27:32 |
Susanne Nyrop |
has joined the chat. |
02:28:00 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Mysterious chatroom |
02:28:47 |
Susanne Nyrop |
This is different; I decided to leave out the
java applet and test the HTML version chat instead |
02:29:02 |
Susanne Nyrop |
But still, I see no save function |
02:30:31 |
Susanne Nyrop |
This means that I am now able to copy and paste
the chat so i can take a copy and piut it into a text document |
02:30:32 |
Susanne Nyrop |
has joined the chat. |
02:30:49 |
Susanne Nyrop 2 |
has joined the chat. |
02:30:50 |
Susanne Nyrop |
has joined the chat. |
02:30:50 |
Susanne Nyrop |
has joined the chat. |
02:30:50 |
Susanne Nyrop |
has joined the chat. |
02:31:22 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
has joined the chat. |
02:31:28 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
hello dear |
02:31:42 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Hey >Daf, I am in the first of our chatrooms
now |
02:31:55 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Hugs to you! |
02:31:55 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes |
02:32:04 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I really missed you |
02:32:11 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
me too |
02:32:27 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I did not make it earlier today |
02:32:37 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I just got a message from David Cillay
|
02:33:04 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I simply got distracted by personal matters so
I had no time to login at noon GMT |
02:33:07 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I have been coming in and out |
02:33:19 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I found Michael and VAnce |
02:33:20 |
Susanne Nyrop |
David who? :-) |
02:33:39 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Cillay from the building communities event
|
02:33:53 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
you posted a message last night to that
discussion board |
02:34:13 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I cannot get to have more than one window open...
|
02:34:26 |
Susanne Nyrop |
but I found a way to save our chat !!! |
02:34:35 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
really? |
02:34:42 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Oh yes, now I know who he is |
02:34:50 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
did you get the message they sent about
the chat |
02:34:56 |
Susanne Nyrop |
You wanna know how ? |
02:34:59 |
Susanne Nyrop |
You wanna know how ? |
02:35:03 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
tell me |
02:35:09 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Oh yes, now I know who he is |
02:35:31 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
tell me |
02:35:35 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I set my presf somewhere 8but where?)( to HTML
chat instead of Java |
02:35:36 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
tell me |
02:35:52 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
in your profile |
02:35:59 |
Susanne Nyrop |
My preferences in WebCrossing I mean :-)) |
02:36:22 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Then I can select all and paste it into another
text document |
02:36:32 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
great! |
02:36:46 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Michael will love that |
02:36:55 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I miss a lot of navigation facilities here :-(
|
02:37:17 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
they also sent a messaage saying that if
you tell them they will send you the chats after the event |
02:37:33 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Yes, I think we all love to read the log afterwards
|
02:37:33 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
on a webpage |
02:37:51 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes, TI has gotten us used to that |
02:38:00 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Oh, they do ? I waqs not aware of that |
02:38:02 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Oh, they do ? I waqs not aware of that |
02:38:07 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Oh, they do ? I waqs not aware of that |
02:38:14 |
Susanne Nyrop |
HM... |
02:38:18 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I got an email this morning about that
|
02:38:33 |
Susanne Nyrop |
The update rate is slow |
02:38:50 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I get lost in all my emails from here :-( |
02:38:57 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yeap. I also saw Ismail this morning |
02:40:00 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
This morning I was contacted by a woman,
Emma something, who was trying to meet people |
02:40:42 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I would love to make a deceription for the blog
abnout how to navigate and to make the community fveeling active - but the
blog system seem not working yet, |
02:40:57 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
and coincidentially she is involved in
online assessment and training. We shared some mails about our work |
02:41:06 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
nno, the blog is not ready yet |
02:41:06 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Oh, and did you get into some kind of dialogue?
|
02:41:24 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes, with the mail system here |
02:41:37 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
we shared four of five emails |
02:41:43 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Good that we do have multiple strategies to get
involved |
02:41:56 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I have them saved but I do not know how
to download them |
02:42:19 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Can you have more than one window open without
logging in again? |
02:42:31 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
no |
02:43:06 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Oh, do we have in internal email here - why did
I not see that feature yet :-) |
02:43:17 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I am amazed at the number of people who
have never chatted |
02:43:40 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
well, is the instant messenger |
02:43:52 |
Susanne Nyrop |
When I am chatting in this html format I see
nothing else, no message box, no participant list . It is very primitive
|
02:44:13 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
oh |
02:44:17 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
:-( |
02:45:01 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
What is most amazing is the number of people
who disregard chats |
02:45:50 |
Susanne Nyrop |
If the chatrooms those people have tried are
as bad as this one, I minght understand why they have not yet seen the light
:-) |
02:46:01 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
lol |
02:46:31 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I was at the poll discussion board and
was reading the messages there |
02:46:41 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Our glocal chat culture is something unusual,
a new cultural and communicative literacy |
02:46:57 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Yes, so were I :-)) |
02:47:13 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I imagined so? |
02:47:24 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
sorry it was not a question |
02:48:42 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Daf - did you meet some of us today at noon GMT
as we decided to od? I was unable to come. |
02:48:58 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes, I met Michael and VAnce |
02:49:13 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
only for a couple of minutes, though |
02:49:54 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Vance's connection was slow and he had
to go eat with his family and Michael was also busy |
02:50:23 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Then I saw Ismail online and sent him a
message |
02:50:24 |
Susanne Nyrop |
One very interesting feature here, with all those
many discussions, is that you can see each person's contributions in their
profile! |
02:50:47 |
Susanne Nyrop |
O, good ! Ismael was here, too |
02:50:49 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
really |
02:51:09 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes, he was recognizing the site |
02:51:49 |
Susanne Nyrop |
The links to people's contributions across discussions
give me some new perspectives and mind tracks |
02:51:51 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
you know, after reading many messages,
I feel that we know so much about web tools and communities |
02:52:43 |
Susanne Nyrop |
What I miss is a kind of general access to my
basic and favorite links here. |
02:53:19 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes, that is also what our blogger said
today |
02:53:19 |
Susanne Nyrop |
We SURE do! This is an ennormous opportunity
to make some kind of comparative |
02:53:31 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
and we have learned with practice |
02:53:39 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Our blogger? Which one? |
02:53:49 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
the guy with long hair |
02:54:00 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I do not remember his name |
02:54:12 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
he is writing blogs about the conference
|
02:54:50 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
everyday my admiration for Vance grows
|
02:55:22 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
he is such a leader |
02:55:33 |
Susanne Nyrop |
We're learning together and sharing our experiences.
Herer as anywhere else we go together. That's a kind of community across
the community environments, proving taht it is possible to bring in your
previous experuiences into another environment |
02:56:40 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Oh, his name is Stephen Downes or something like
that... |
02:56:42 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Oh, his name is Stephen Downes or something like
that... |
02:56:44 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Oh, his name is Stephen Downes or something like
that... |
02:56:47 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yeap |
02:56:49 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Oh, his name is Stephen Downes or something like
that... |
02:56:50 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Oh, his name is Stephen Downes or something like
that... |
02:57:04 |
Susanne Nyrop |
We're learning together and sharing our experiences.
Herer as anywhere else we go together. That's a kind of community across
the community environments, proving taht it is possible to bring in your
previous experuiences into another thiingsonment |
02:57:28 |
Susanne Nyrop |
HRMPH |
02:57:50 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Yes, Vance is a natural born leader and a good
friend, too |
02:58:16 |
Susanne Nyrop |
(sorry for the unwanted parrot effect) |
02:58:20 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
lol |
02:58:59 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
you know in the cool tools there is one
to put a chat on your web page |
02:59:41 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Yes - did you check it out? |
02:59:57 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I just saw the sample they have there |
03:00:14 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
but I will try it out on my web page |
03:00:20 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I guess that those cool tools are really your
way of getting around ... |
03:00:21 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I guess that those cool tools are really your
way of getting around ... |
03:00:43 |
Susanne Nyrop |
But they look mostly all to be Windows related
|
03:00:55 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
many interesting stuff, but I need to have
time to check them out |
03:02:19 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
There are so many things going on here,
that I feel like at the TESOL conventions |
03:02:43 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I logged in noce more, and do have another window
open besides the chat, without being logged off from here!!! |
03:02:53 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
but instead of walking from one side to
the other, I just click form one event to the other |
03:03:11 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
using a new window? |
03:03:15 |
Susanne Nyrop |
There is many ways to get involved , and to get
lost, too |
03:03:35 |
Susanne Nyrop |
yes, having two windows open, with two logins
|
03:03:55 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Great progress! |
03:04:04 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
but your name appears only once |
03:04:27 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I think a lot of people are browsing |
03:04:48 |
Susanne Nyrop |
very good, no second identity :-) |
03:04:49 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yeap |
03:05:09 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I wonder why they have not made room for many
participants in the who's here |
03:05:15 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
have you found something worth to comment?
|
03:05:28 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes, that's another mistery |
03:05:45 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I mean in the messages |
03:06:13 |
Dafne Gonzalez 2 |
has joined the chat. |
03:06:18 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Today I saw that 56 persons were online. But
only aboyut ten names showning, plus a link to the alphabetical list of
people |
03:06:42 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes, this morning there were 98 |
03:07:03 |
Susanne Nyrop |
You can see my contributions if you click on
my icon in the messenger (I think?) |
03:07:39 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
no, I have to click on more and then look
for your name |
03:07:59 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I will need to wirte a brief personal intro -
many people do have it, but most forget all about it, or are not aware of
the idea of a profile |
03:08:20 |
Dafne Gonzalez 2 |
I did not write anything on mine. I was
in a hurry |
03:08:28 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Hm - but do you get it, then? |
03:08:36 |
Dafne Gonzalez 2 |
yes |
03:08:49 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I can follow your contributions, or at least
the latest ones |
03:09:41 |
Dafne Gonzalez 2 |
yes, I am looking at yours |
03:10:02 |
Dafne Gonzalez 2 |
I also opened another window but without
logging twice |
03:10:38 |
Susanne Nyrop |
You have eight mesasgesin your postings list
(I clicked on your name in a discussion :-) |
03:10:42 |
Dafne Gonzalez 2 |
you have posted 6 contributions |
03:10:57 |
Dafne Gonzalez 2 |
lol |
03:11:04 |
Susanne Nyrop |
But you do not have the HTML chat, do you? |
03:11:09 |
Dafne Gonzalez 2 |
no |
03:11:24 |
Dafne Gonzalez 2 |
I have the default one |
03:11:30 |
Susanne Nyrop |
That may be why it is possble for you to have
more windows open |
03:11:33 |
Dafne Gonzalez 2 |
because I did not check any preference
|
03:12:06 |
Dafne Gonzalez 2 |
maybe that is the reason |
03:12:17 |
Susanne Nyrop |
default is the Java applet that cannot be saved,
|
03:12:33 |
Dafne Gonzalez 2 |
you know, in your profile it says that
you are not online |
03:12:56 |
Dafne Gonzalez 2 |
another mistery |
03:13:41 |
Dafne Gonzalez 2 |
David Cillay posted another questions on
his discussion board |
03:13:44 |
Susanne Nyrop |
NOw I saved our chat before some possible breakdown
of system :-)) |
03:14:05 |
Dafne Gonzalez 2 |
great, you will document the experience
|
03:14:13 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I saw his summing up and question |
03:14:37 |
Dafne Gonzalez 2 |
did you hear his "shaking hands" voice
message? |
03:15:08 |
Susanne Nyrop |
IK was a little worried about the idea of asking
new students to "Share the thee most embarassing moments in their lives".
|
03:15:32 |
Susanne Nyrop |
NO - all thois voice and video things are not
working on my silly Mac |
03:16:22 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I do not make a lot of experiments about it because
i have no patience to manage these problems alone |
03:16:50 |
Susanne Nyrop |
It is too damp |
03:17:24 |
Dafne Gonzalez 2 |
talking about dampness have you had rain
there? |
03:17:38 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Tomorrow i will be offline, we're going to a
funeral far out in the ocuntry |
03:17:54 |
Susanne Nyrop |
No rain for many days |
03:18:25 |
Susanne Nyrop |
No clouds or wind, just sun and damp heat |
03:18:34 |
Dafne Gonzalez 2 |
like here |
03:18:52 |
Dafne Gonzalez 2 |
Today I picked up my ticket to fly to Paris
|
03:21:02 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Oh, I suddenly realize that Michael's discussion
is taking shape, Id better read it and say something, too :-)) |
03:22:18 |
Dafne Gonzalez 2 |
many people have contributed |
03:22:52 |
Dafne Gonzalez 2 |
do you realize that you are talking to
Dafne Gonzalez 2? |
03:23:21 |
Susanne Nyrop |
>Your holiday sounds very well planned |
03:23:33 |
Dafne Gonzalez 2 |
well it is a circuit |
03:23:42 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Yes, dafne 2, I just saw that!!! |
03:23:42 |
Dafne Gonzalez 2 |
a package |
03:23:55 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Myst |
03:24:11 |
Dafne Gonzalez 2 |
everything included |
03:25:34 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I am disappointed now. I THOUGHT I had saved
our chat - but only a small part of it works. the rest is silence |
03:25:57 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Cries |
03:26:24 |
Susanne Nyrop |
We should meet in Tapped >IN next time. |
03:26:56 |
Dafne Gonzalez 2 |
yes |
03:26:57 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I actually thought this as a kind of experience
|
03:27:22 |
Susanne Nyrop |
so a chatlog would have been worth a lot. |
03:27:33 |
Dafne Gonzalez 2 |
to be here and TI at the same time, I have
to come here first |
03:27:50 |
Dafne Gonzalez 2 |
open a new window and get to TI |
03:28:29 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Well, if I should read and react to our own discussion,
i'd better leave this chat now |
03:28:38 |
Dafne Gonzalez 2 |
if i do the other way around I get disconnected
|
03:28:43 |
Susanne Nyrop |
OK, let us see if we can do it |
03:28:51 |
Dafne Gonzalez 2 |
well, talk to you tomorrow |
03:29:01 |
Dafne Gonzalez 2 |
nice chat |
03:29:10 |
Dafne Gonzalez 2 |
hugs Sus good night |
03:29:20 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
has joined the chat. |
03:29:24 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
has joined the chat. |
03:36:18 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
has joined the chat. |
03:36:34 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
hi Rita |
03:36:39 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
hi, Daf |
03:37:00 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
do you know if the chat is now? |
03:37:14 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
it's tomorrow |
03:37:27 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
12.30 pm GMT, Daf |
03:37:32 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I am so mixed up with this time zones |
03:37:37 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
me too |
03:37:44 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I missed one chat I was really interested
in |
03:37:59 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
which one? |
03:38:15 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
one about collaborative learning |
03:38:24 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Curtis Bonk |
03:38:27 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
pity we cant have the logs |
03:38:37 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yeap |
03:38:51 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I am participating in the discussion but
missed the chat |
03:38:54 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
there are some with no messages at all...
|
03:39:07 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes |
03:39:25 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
I like the one about Strategies.... |
03:39:42 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I am participating mostly in two, strategies
for builinging communities |
03:39:44 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
lots of postings, interesting |
03:39:55 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
and this one about collaborative learning
|
03:40:07 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
they are very related |
03:40:08 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
seen the one on games? |
03:40:23 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
saw it, but have not been there |
03:40:42 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
just a few ideas, here and there |
03:41:06 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I have gathered some good articles and
links |
03:41:22 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
to read in September |
03:41:27 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
me too |
03:41:36 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
did you bookmark ? |
03:41:37 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
the idea of the satchel is great |
03:41:43 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
yes! |
03:41:52 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I put them in the satchel and also bookmarked
them |
03:41:53 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
(I "saved" anyway... |
03:42:09 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
in cas...;-) |
03:42:10 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
some I saved to my documents |
03:42:11 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
case |
03:42:26 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
yes |
03:42:33 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
triangulation ;-) |
03:42:48 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
there are some .pdf articles |
03:43:06 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yeap |
03:43:13 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
which I printed, cant be saved |
03:43:40 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I haven't had time to print them yet |
03:43:50 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
saved them?? |
03:43:59 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
put them in the satchel and bookmarked
them |
03:44:35 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
some pdf can be saved if you copy and paste
page by page |
03:45:05 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
ah, right |
03:45:30 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
(less effort printing....;-)) |
03:45:37 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I am reading a very good article that Curtis
Bonk sent me, after a message I sent |
03:45:49 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I think you will like it, let me give you
the link |
03:45:51 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
what about? |
03:45:58 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
ok |
03:46:42 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
about web based education, it is a chapter
of a book |
03:46:47 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
.f0c86ae/3!enclosure=.f0c9739
|
03:48:18 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I can send it to you by mail, because this
chat is weird |
03:48:22 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
thanks, DAF! |
03:48:27 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
you know what? |
03:48:32 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
? |
03:49:14 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
remeber we wondered about the "repeated"
script when clicking on words? |
03:49:25 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
on this window? |
03:49:49 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
I clicked, it was copied, and i was taken
to the site! |
03:49:49 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yeap |
03:50:10 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
directly...., didnt know |
03:50:25 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Don't understand what you mean |
03:50:41 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
(minimized now, will print it later) |
03:51:08 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
oh, yeap I just did it |
03:51:09 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
when you wrote the url here |
03:51:20 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I was taken to the article |
03:51:39 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
i clicked on it, the url appeared below,
"copied" |
03:51:55 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
i clicked on the "copy" |
03:52:02 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes, it is like the projection in TI |
03:52:09 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
and was taken to the site |
03:52:27 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes, I did it too |
03:52:39 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
right, i remember we wondered abot this
"copy" function... |
03:52:42 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes, it is like the projection in TI |
03:52:51 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
yeap |
03:53:02 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
but for yourself |
03:53:05 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
so the chat is tomorrow |
03:53:17 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
well for me tonight |
03:53:35 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
well tomorrow, but very early |
03:53:35 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
but theres a difference which i still need
to check for the 2nd chat |
03:53:50 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
what time for you? |
03:53:59 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
2:30am |
03:54:08 |
Aiden Yeh |
has joined the chat. |
03:54:19 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
terrible...., will you stay awake? |
03:54:21 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
and the one on thursday at 2:30 pm |
03:54:26 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Hi Aiden |
03:54:33 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
hi, Aiden |
03:54:47 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I am always awake at that time |
03:54:56 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I love to work at night |
03:54:58 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
thanks for your message, Aiden! |
03:55:10 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
2.30, Daf?? |
03:55:15 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yeap |
03:55:29 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
last night I went to bed at 3am |
03:55:37 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
what time do you get up then? |
03:55:44 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
9 |
03:55:54 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
little sleep... |
03:56:00 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
6 hours |
03:56:05 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
7 hours |
03:56:35 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I am wondering about Aiden |
03:58:06 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Rita are you there? |
03:58:13 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
maybe Aiden is multitasking |
03:58:30 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
so lets find out the difference for the
2nd chat, Daf, which somewhere is said to start before the time we thought..
|
03:58:43 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Aiden is here in yahoo |
03:59:04 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
but she writes messages and we do not see
her |
03:59:28 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
how do you know she's writing? |
03:59:42 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
she told me |
03:59:50 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
we are in yahoo messenger |
04:00:11 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
she is going to leave and re-enter again
|
04:00:34 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
i see |
04:01:03 |
Aiden Yeh 4 |
has joined the chat. |
04:01:31 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
now, she is Aiden 4 |
04:03:10 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
are you in contact with aiden, Daf? |
04:03:36 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes |
04:03:44 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
we are trying to solve theproblem |
04:03:48 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
problem? |
04:04:00 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes, she writes and we do not see her |
04:04:25 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
now she is going to log out of the conference
and login again |
04:04:28 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
maybe she's behind a firewall? |
04:04:54 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
there are some bugs in this platform |
04:05:15 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
i have lost the links to some events I
had in my schedule |
04:05:21 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
then they come back again |
04:05:39 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
some features are not very stable |
04:05:57 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
yesterday i got a strange popup with an
invitation "to see a pix" |
04:06:11 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
did you? |
04:06:15 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
yeap |
04:06:23 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
looked like porn |
04:06:25 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
did you acceopt? |
04:06:30 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
NO! |
04:06:33 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
lol |
04:07:08 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Our event has had many participants |
04:07:18 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
(it was intellectual time...;-)) |
04:07:33 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
yes, do they pay? |
04:07:51 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
they have to pay to attend the conference
|
04:08:15 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
and then they might double use it... |
04:08:37 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
what do you mean? |
04:08:53 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
those sending porn popups...;-) |
04:09:10 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
oh, I was talking about attending the conference
|
04:09:11 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
lol |
04:09:15 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
soooooorry! |
04:09:31 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
those pop ups are hackers |
04:09:45 |
Aiden Yeh 5 |
has joined the chat. |
04:09:57 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
wb Aiden |
04:09:57 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
Aiden 5!!!! |
04:10:09 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Aiden has clonned herself |
04:10:15 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
lol |
04:10:43 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
one is not enough |
04:10:57 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
the poor kid cannot communicate with us
|
04:11:08 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
she might be in another dimension |
04:11:11 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
problem if she cant make it, might not
make it tomorrow! |
04:11:41 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
she is able to send messages, we knnow
that |
04:11:52 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
yeah |
04:12:08 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Aiden what if you change your chat preference
to HTML |
04:12:12 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
on your profile page |
04:12:31 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
it is a very rudimentary chat but it might
work |
04:12:56 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
Daf dear, i'll have a look at some talks
and then i have to go to work.... |
04:13:26 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
ok, Rita, I will wait for a while for Aiden
|
04:13:29 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
CU later? (when im back, 8 hs from now)
|
04:13:30 |
Aiden Yeh 5 |
has joined the chat. |
04:13:45 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes, I will be around late this afternoon
|
04:13:45 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
ok, enjoy! |
04:14:00 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
you too |
04:14:01 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
bye! |
04:14:07 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
bye |
04:14:59 |
Aiden Yeh |
has joined the chat. |
04:15:09 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
hi Aiden |
04:15:15 |
Aiden Yeh |
hello daf |
04:15:19 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
finally |
04:15:30 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
BRAVO!!!! |
04:15:30 |
Aiden Yeh |
now i can see my postings |
04:15:37 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
me too |
04:15:44 |
Aiden Yeh |
but it's super dooper slow |
04:16:05 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes, the chat is the worst feature of this
whole event |
04:16:10 |
Aiden Yeh |
i'll try my laptop tomorrow |
04:16:27 |
Aiden Yeh |
yes, I think so too |
04:16:35 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
small window |
04:17:03 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I do not know how it would be like if we
have many people in here |
04:17:05 |
Aiden Yeh |
i've gotten used to TI, that I think it's rather
primitive |
04:17:46 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Sus and I were here last night and then
we moved to TI |
04:17:49 |
Aiden Yeh |
i agree |
04:18:10 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Michael has not showed up today, has he?
|
04:18:21 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I mean he has not posted anything today
|
04:18:57 |
Aiden Yeh |
oh, no, what about tomorrow |
04:19:11 |
Aiden Yeh |
are we allowed to use TI as backup |
04:19:21 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I do not think so |
04:19:48 |
Aiden Yeh |
i've been here on and off since this morning,
nope i haven't seen Micahel |
04:20:15 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
last night I decided to go into the cultural
issue in our event, to get the ball rolling |
04:20:43 |
Aiden Yeh |
i think, if we';ll have more than 15, then it
wuold be chaotic |
04:21:01 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
and you have written very good comments
|
04:21:33 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I am attending a couple of other events
|
04:21:34 |
Aiden Yeh |
yes, i saw and responded to your posting |
04:22:12 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
We are missing VAnce here |
04:22:14 |
Aiden Yeh |
so far, the discussions are mvoing |
04:22:34 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
He was with Michael and I here yesterday
but only for a couple of minutes |
04:23:08 |
Aiden Yeh |
will he be here tomo? |
04:23:21 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes, he said he will try his best |
04:23:54 |
Aiden Yeh |
this is so slow, Daf |
04:24:02 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes |
04:24:36 |
Aiden Yeh |
anyway, i'll try again later using my laptop,
see if java works |
04:24:50 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Aiden I got to go now, need to have late
lunch as usual |
04:25:05 |
Aiden Yeh |
i've got to go and read a story to my children,
then tuck them in for the nite |
04:25:18 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
see you tomorrow |
04:25:22 |
Aiden Yeh |
see you here tom |
04:25:28 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
bye |
04:25:43 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
nice talking to you, Aiden |
04:25:52 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
has joined the chat. |
04:29:38 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
has joined the chat. |
04:29:38 |
Elizabeth Anthony Lee |
has joined the chat. |
04:30:07 |
Elizabeth Anthony Lee |
just wandering around trying to find a base |
04:30:07 |
Elizabeth Anthony Lee |
has joined the chat. |
04:30:07 |
Gary Phillips |
has joined the chat. |
04:30:18 |
Shunichiro Ito |
has joined the chat. |
04:30:28 |
Shunichiro Ito |
has joined the chat. |
04:30:28 |
Aiden Yeh |
has joined the chat. |
04:31:16 |
Susanne Nyrop |
has joined the chat. |
04:31:28 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Hi aiden! |
04:32:53 |
Susanne Nyrop 2 |
has joined the chat. |
04:32:54 |
Susanne Nyrop |
has joined the chat. |
04:33:06 |
Susanne Nyrop |
has joined the chat. |
04:34:54 |
Susanne Nyrop |
bb' |
04:35:18 |
Susanne Nyrop |
test |
04:35:19 |
Susanne Nyrop |
test |
04:35:20 |
Susanne Nyrop |
test |
04:35:21 |
Susanne Nyrop |
tste |
04:35:38 |
Susanne Nyrop |
has joined the chat. |
04:45:43 |
Michael Coghlan |
has joined the chat. |
04:46:03 |
Michael Coghlan |
hello Susanne. I've come in early to chekc
a few things |
04:46:30 |
Michael Coghlan |
Welcome to this chat session presented
by the Webheads community on Cross Cultural Communication Online. A lively
discussion elsewhere on the conference site has been going on for 3 days
already, and has raised many issues in connection with this topic.We have
no idea how many people may attend. The Webheads#2019 philosophy has always
been #2018open house#2019. I will however ATTEMPT to moderate the session.
It will be structured, as far as possible, around specific questions from
participants, or question |
04:46:59 |
Michael Coghlan |
#2018open house#2019. I will however ATTEMPT
to moderate the session. It will be structured, as far as possible, around
specific questions from participants, or questions posed by the co-presenters.
I will try and indicate when we should move on to another question.We may
have times within the hour where we have free flowing unmoderated chat.I,
as the moderator, may at times type in CAPITAL LETTERS to gain attention
of the group. If you see me typing in capitals please finish what you may
be typing a |
04:47:24 |
Michael Coghlan |
moderator, may at times type in CAPITAL
LETTERS to gain attention of the group. If you see me typing in capitals
please finish what you may be typing and pause.As tempting as it is to do
your own thing in online chat, please try and stay on task as much as possible.
Note: this chat does have an eject user facility!! |
04:57:47 |
Michael Coghlan |
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04:58:10 |
Michael Coghlan |
fSDF |
05:08:39 |
Susanne Nyrop 2 |
has joined the chat. |
05:08:39 |
Marita Quaglio |
has joined the chat. |
05:09:32 |
Marita Quaglio 2 |
has joined the chat. |
05:10:18 |
Marita Quaglio 2 |
Looks like a lonely chat up ahead. It's a beautiful
moonlit night in Yack. |
05:12:07 |
Marita Quaglio 2 |
Looks like a lonely chat up ahead. It's a beautiful
moonlit night in Yack. |
05:12:07 |
Marita Quaglio |
has joined the chat. |
05:12:53 |
Marita Quaglio 2 |
has joined the chat. |
05:14:51 |
Shunichiro Ito |
has joined the chat. |
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Ismail Fayed |
has joined the chat. |
05:15:23 |
Marita Quaglio |
has joined the chat. |
05:15:58 |
Marita Quaglio |
Hello Ismail, this is a very quiet chat room,
isn't it? |
05:16:07 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
has joined the chat. |
05:16:11 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
has joined the chat. |
05:16:11 |
Jane Anderson |
has joined the chat. |
05:16:46 |
Jane Anderson 2 |
has joined the chat. |
05:18:54 |
Michele Lamont-Smith |
has joined the chat. |
05:19:43 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
has joined the chat. |
05:19:45 |
Marita Quaglio |
has joined the chat. |
05:20:27 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
hello everybody |
05:20:31 |
Marita Quaglio |
Hello there, can you hear me Jane? |
05:20:45 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I can see you Marita |
05:20:49 |
Michele Lamont-Smith |
Hi you 2, is this where we need to be for
the chat on cross cultural communnication? |
05:20:57 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
exactly |
05:21:00 |
Marita Quaglio |
Oh, hello all |
05:21:08 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Welcome to the Webheads presentation |
05:21:08 |
Michele Lamont-Smith |
but we are early? |
05:21:18 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
has joined the chat. |
05:21:19 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes, we are early |
05:21:25 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Welcome Rita |
05:21:39 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
thanks, Daf, good morning ! |
05:21:44 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Rita and I belong to the Webheads community
|
05:21:48 |
Michele Lamont-Smith |
has joined the chat. |
05:22:36 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
Hi, Marita, where are you from? |
05:22:50 |
Marita Quaglio |
I have not posted anything anywhere yet but have
been reading with interest the cross cultural communication stuff. |
05:23:07 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
lurking is also fine with us |
05:23:19 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
are you an ESL teacher? |
05:23:41 |
Marita Quaglio |
I'm from Yackandandah in Victoria Australia.
it's night time here, a |
05:24:29 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I am in Spain, it is 2:15 pm here |
05:24:29 |
Marita Quaglio |
I'm a Multicultural Education coordinator for
the Riverina Institute of TAFE NSW |
05:25:00 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
so, this is the right chat discussion for
you |
05:25:12 |
Marita Quaglio |
Where are you Dafne and Michele? |
05:25:25 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I am in Spain, it is 2:15 pm here |
05:25:52 |
Jane Anderson |
has joined the chat. |
05:26:03 |
Marita Quaglio |
Sorry, I meant Rita |
05:26:12 |
Michael Coghlan |
has joined the chat. |
05:26:23 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
hello Michael |
05:26:23 |
Michael Coghlan |
Testing testing 123 |
05:26:23 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
Im from Argentina, 9.15 am here |
05:26:40 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
hi, Michael! |
05:26:55 |
Michael Coghlan |
Hello Rita and Dafne and others |
05:26:56 |
Marita Quaglio |
Hello Michael and Jane |
05:27:08 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
hi jane |
05:27:14 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
hi, Jane |
05:27:40 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Where are you from Jane? |
05:28:28 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Michael did you get the message I sent
about the parrto feature? |
05:28:34 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
parrot |
05:28:41 |
Ismail Fayed |
has joined the chat. |
05:28:51 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Welcome Ismail :-) |
05:28:54 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
Hi, Ismael |
05:29:19 |
Ismail Fayed |
Hello everyone |
05:29:23 |
Ismail Fayed |
Hello everyone |
05:29:43 |
Jane Anderson |
Hello to Dafne and Rita in the space, re-hello
to Marita, wait till you see the photos from yesterday! This is (for me)
a bit like count down to the fireworks.... in fact, hope it works! |
05:29:50 |
Ismail Fayed |
Hi daf, rita and all.. |
05:30:04 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Ismail is from Egypt |
05:30:16 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
he is also part of the Webheads community
|
05:30:51 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
(which photos, Jane?) |
05:30:58 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
/to Jane, what photos are you talking about?
|
05:31:02 |
Ismail Fayed |
did u start the session already |
05:31:11 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
no, Ismail, not yet |
05:31:30 |
Jane Anderson |
I'm from Sydney - warmish evening, looking forward
to hearing lots of interesting views |
05:31:39 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
we are introducing ourselves informally
|
05:31:53 |
Michael Coghlan |
Good plan! |
05:32:11 |
Michael Coghlan |
Ismail - you found us! Well done. |
05:32:16 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
so far, where we are from |
05:32:42 |
Susanne Nyrop |
has joined the chat. |
05:32:54 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
hi, Sus, welcome! |
05:32:54 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
hugs Sus hello |
05:33:02 |
Jane Anderson |
Oh, the photos, Marita and I work together and
are doing some online learning things and yesterday we did some photos -
I've been told to enrol in a photography course, so I guess its a case of
its the thought that counts |
05:33:04 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Hello webheads :- and guests |
05:33:18 |
Michael Coghlan |
Susanne has just volunteered herself and
Dafne as technical moderators! |
05:33:36 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
do you have them online? |
05:33:39 |
Susanne Nyrop |
:grins |
05:33:46 |
Ismail Fayed |
Hello Susanne |
05:33:56 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Ismael, good to see you, too |
05:33:59 |
Michael Coghlan |
We'll start right on 1.30 Aust Eastern
time - just a few minutes |
05:34:22 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I just told Miochael that Dafne & I had
alreasdy experienced the chatroom y |
05:34:22 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
great :-) |
05:34:48 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Rita and I discovered what the parrot feature
is for |
05:34:51 |
Michele Lamont-Smith |
has joined the chat. |
05:34:53 |
Michael Coghlan |
We're missing Vance |
05:35:00 |
Susanne Nyrop |
.... so we might help you with querstions
if they come up, about how to use the technique |
05:35:13 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Hello Michele |
05:35:15 |
Ismail Fayed |
Hello Susanne |
05:35:21 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
(Jane, have you uploaded your photos?)
|
05:35:25 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Welcome Michele |
05:35:31 |
Michele Lamont-Smith |
Hi everyone |
05:35:35 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
hi, Michele |
05:35:43 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Is any of uyou using the html chat instead
of java? |
05:35:55 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
not me |
05:35:57 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
not me |
05:35:59 |
Michele Lamont-Smith |
nor me |
05:36:12 |
Jane Anderson |
hello others |
05:36:30 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Michele where are you from? |
05:36:53 |
Michele Lamont-Smith |
Perth |
05:37:01 |
Michele Lamont-Smith |
Western Australia |
05:37:02 |
Marita Quaglio |
This isw where the amateurs (good word) are found
out. I haven't got a clue! |
05:37:26 |
Michele Lamont-Smith |
Michael i was very interested about your
comment that chat focuses on the person not the race |
05:37:26 |
Jane Anderson |
(rita: not yet, they are refreshingly fuzzy)
|
05:37:26 |
Marita Quaglio |
I was replying to Susanne there |
05:37:28 |
Susanne Nyrop |
has joined the chat. |
05:37:42 |
Michael Coghlan |
OK we shal begin. It is fortunate that
bwe have a small group |
05:37:48 |
Michael Coghlan |
Welcome to this chat session. I am about
to begin by copy and pasting some introductory information. |
05:37:59 |
Shunichiro Ito |
has joined the chat. |
05:38:04 |
Michael Coghlan |
Welcome to this chat session presented
by the Webheads community on Cross Cultural Communication Online. A lively
discussion elsewhere on the conference site has been going on for 3 days
already, and has raised many issues in connection with this topic.We have
no idea how many people may attend. The Webheads#2019 philosophy has always
been |
05:38:09 |
Michele Lamont-Smith |
sorry am I early, i'm in a different time
zone |
05:38:19 |
Michael Coghlan |
#2018open house#2019. I will however ATTEMPT
to moderate the session. It will be structured, as far as possible, around
specific questions from participants, or questions posed by the co-presenters.
I will try and indicate when we should move on to another question.We may
have times within the hour where we have free flowing unmoderated chat.I,
as the |
05:38:25 |
Ismail Fayed |
Hello Susanne |
05:38:39 |
Michael Coghlan |
moderator, may at times type in CAPITAL
LETTERS to gain attention of the group. If you see me typing in capitals
please finish what you may be typing and pause.As tempting as it is to do
your own thing in online chat, please try and stay on task as much as possible.
Note: this chat does have an eject user facility!! |
05:39:05 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
frowns |
05:39:06 |
Michael Coghlan |
OK....can the co-presenter fisrt identify
themselkvesplease? |
05:39:15 |
Michael Coghlan |
co -presenters |
05:39:18 |
Michael Coghlan |
are.... |
05:39:47 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Hello! I am Susanne Nyroip from Denmark,
a gradiuate student of education who needed online c ompany to expore the
internet for educational uses |
05:40:03 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I am Dafne Gonzalez, from Venezuela, studying
in Spain. I teach ESP to Architecture Students and have been a Webheads
since January this year |
05:40:08 |
Michael Coghlan |
Thanks Sus and Daf |
05:40:10 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
I', from Argentina, Manager at a private
Intitute in Rosario, EFL teacher, Multimedia Coordinator |
05:40:27 |
Michael Coghlan |
Ismail and Shun? |
05:40:45 |
Shunichiro Ito |
Shun Ito from Japan, teaching EFL in Tokyo.
|
05:41:02 |
Ismail Fayed |
Sorry, it seems that when you click on the refresh
icon, your last message will be repeated everytime, even if you dont type
it again. |
05:41:14 |
Michael Coghlan |
OK. Michelle and Jane and Marita - where
are you from? |
05:41:56 |
Michele Lamont-Smith |
I'm from Perth, Western Austalia. I lecturer
mainly online with Central Tafe |
05:42:16 |
Michele Lamont-Smith |
and mentor other staff in online delivery
|
05:42:24 |
Michael Coghlan |
We'd like to begin by asking if any of
the visitors have any questions from our paper or the discussions of the
last few days.....? |
05:42:37 |
Marita Quaglio |
Yackandandah, Victoria, Australia, Multicultural
Education Coordinator for TAFE NSW Riverina Institute |
05:42:49 |
Jane Anderson |
greetings, live in Sydney and work 3 minutes
from home in the Dept Ed |
05:43:18 |
Michael Coghlan |
Thanks Marita. Do you, or jane , or Michelle
want to start the ball rolling with a question? |
05:43:41 |
Michael Coghlan |
If not --- we have q's for you :) |
05:43:43 |
Michele Lamont-Smith |
i must admit i planned to be a lurker tonight
as I hav only been able to listen to the CD presentation so far |
05:43:53 |
Michele Lamont-Smith |
but am very interested in this topic |
05:43:58 |
Michael Coghlan |
That's fine Michelle. |
05:44:10 |
Vance Stevens |
has joined the chat. |
05:44:15 |
Ismail Fayed |
My name is Ismail Fayed, I am from Egypt. I am
working in teacher training program in Cairo as a Program Specialist. |
05:44:20 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Welcome, Vance |
05:44:26 |
Vance Stevens |
hi everyone |
05:44:28 |
Michael Coghlan |
Jane or Marita - here's your chance! |
05:44:32 |
Jane Anderson |
Oooh, what would be your 3 to 5 top tips be for
online learning in culturally diverse context? |
05:44:40 |
Susanne Nyrop |
has joined the chat. |
05:44:42 |
Michele Lamont-Smith |
but i would love anyone to expand on how
online allows indiviuals to be just that & has no race distinction |
05:44:51 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Vance is with us, too! |
05:44:55 |
Michele Lamont-Smith |
as Michael previously stated |
05:45:01 |
Michael Coghlan |
Welcome to another co-presenter - Vance
Stevens from the Emirates and foudner of webheads |
05:45:02 |
Vance Stevens |
nice to see so many familiar faces, or avatars,
whatever |
05:45:17 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
hi, Vance! |
05:45:27 |
Susanne Nyrop |
:prefers to be a face with a voice :-)
|
05:45:40 |
Michael Coghlan |
Michelle says: i would love anyone to expand
on how online allows indiviuals to be just that & has no race distinction
|
05:45:53 |
Vance Stevens |
html chat does not refresh automatically I see
:-( |
05:45:56 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Vance, are you still in India on trekking
holiday? |
05:45:58 |
Michael Coghlan |
Vance - myou might like to comment on that?
|
05:46:19 |
Aiden Yeh |
has joined the chat. |
05:46:19 |
Ismail Fayed |
Hello Vance, nice to see u around :) |
05:46:40 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
welcome Aiden |
05:46:41 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
hi, Aiden, welcome! |
05:46:47 |
Marita Quaglio |
I'm a bit interested in conflict and how to deal
with that. especially if it is accentuated by cultural or linguistic misunderstandingse
really practical examples |
05:46:47 |
Aiden Yeh |
Hello |
05:46:52 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Well - race distinctions - did we ever
cross that matter |
05:46:58 |
Vance Stevens |
I'm in Pushkar not far from Jaipur |
05:47:09 |
Michael Coghlan |
OK - I'll speak for V - Vance argues that
people online actually can lose theor culture .... |
05:47:54 |
Michael Coghlan |
..because they can't be seen or identified
as par tof a culture |
05:47:58 |
Ismail Fayed |
This is one of the best merits of the word "ONLINE",
Michael.. To be on the same track with others with no limist, Distinctions,
or whatsoever.. |
05:48:16 |
Vance Stevens |
in previous discussions we could not pinpoint
conflict on the internet otehr than that which might occur in F2f context
|
05:48:20 |
Michael Coghlan |
Do you feel free of culture online Ismail?
|
05:48:34 |
Susanne Nyrop |
|
05:48:48 |
Michael Coghlan |
:smiles at Susanne |
05:49:08 |
Michele Lamont-Smith |
do we need to get that specific? lol |
05:49:19 |
Michele Lamont-Smith |
about the wrinkles, anyway |
05:49:22 |
Michael Coghlan |
Only the Danes among us! |
05:49:23 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I have never found cultural differences
as obstacles |
05:49:39 |
Vance Stevens |
except that online allows people to SHARE cultures
and enhance distinctions by pointing out URLs for example as ways of generating
INTEREST in cultural differences |
05:49:53 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
they enrich our experiences |
05:50:17 |
Michele Lamont-Smith |
and they may use their own website, photoes
to do that as well |
05:50:21 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
I guess that as online communic is based
on written lang, we should avoid the use of qualifiers, lang with ethnic
connotations, be aware of possible misunderstandings... |
05:50:21 |
Susanne Nyrop |
One question we have touche in our discussions
before this sessiond was some kind of different ideas of what is fun |
05:50:39 |
Michael Coghlan |
One of the contributors to mour discussion
boards says if you son't live in a country you have no idea about that culture
|
05:51:07 |
Jane Anderson |
can I return to religious preferences pls? |
05:51:09 |
Ismail Fayed |
. |
05:51:12 |
Susanne Nyrop |
black humor can sometimnes be hard to tell
from bad manners in case you're not a native speaker |
05:51:19 |
Susanne Nyrop |
jane, go ahead |
05:51:20 |
Peter Hillery 2 |
has joined the chat. |
05:51:30 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Hi Peter |
05:51:32 |
Susanne Nyrop |
WElcome, peter |
05:51:40 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
hi, Peter |
05:51:52 |
Peter Hillery 2 |
Hi everyone - sorry I'm late - I've been to rehearsal
|
05:51:57 |
Shunichiro Ito |
When my students talked to Vance, James,
Dan Bilitz, they were not aware of the teachers' nationality of race. |
05:52:03 |
Susanne Nyrop |
jane just asked about religious preferences
- can you elaborate? |
05:52:03 |
Vance Stevens |
that's where online CC can assist, by allowing
people from one country to pinoint urls that will help another understand
the culture there |
05:52:10 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I think that even humor varies within individuals
of the same culture |
05:52:22 |
Michael Coghlan |
Exactly Dafne |
05:52:37 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
so it should not be stereotyped |
05:52:44 |
Michele Lamont-Smith |
so would you say for us to be careful using
jokes online? |
05:52:47 |
Shunichiro Ito |
Tokyo culture vs Osaka culture. |
05:52:47 |
Ismail Fayed |
I dont think so Michel, I admit that it is important,
but not vital. |
05:53:12 |
Jane Anderson |
thanks, suzanne you mentioned 'no religious preferences'
which is how I identified before I lived in a culture with a different mainstream
religion which then showed me I did have a religious preference |
05:53:33 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Yes, Daf, I agree; my husband's do not
think I always laugh at the right situations |
05:53:40 |
Shunichiro Ito |
Jokes and idioms do not transcend cultural
distinctions. Cannot be understood without prior training. |
05:54:04 |
Michael Coghlan |
How is this religious preferences issue
played out online? |
05:54:48 |
Michele Lamont-Smith |
I don't understand this ques tion Michael
|
05:55:05 |
Jane Anderson |
and plays on words are extremely problematic
(that;'s for humour, not religion) |
05:55:15 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I usually do not touch religious matters
with my online buddies |
05:55:15 |
Vance Stevens |
true that jokes do not transcend cultures but
this is an aspect of all cc communication not just online cc communication
|
05:55:15 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
my stds never laugh at good english puns!
|
05:55:25 |
Michael Coghlan |
I guess I was asking Michelle for examples
of how religious preferences may be an issue in online communnication |
05:55:43 |
Michael Coghlan |
Sorry - asking Jane! |
05:56:20 |
Aiden Yeh |
it's probably lingustic differences, Rita |
05:56:28 |
Ismail Fayed |
I dont think so Michel, I admit that it is important,
but not vital. |
05:56:45 |
Vance Stevens |
if you WANT to make a religious or humor point
it's possible that online CC can be an asset as it removes paralinguistic
elements and you can use the environment to do internet searches, get s's
to develop webpages making points ... |
05:56:54 |
Susanne Nyrop |
WEll, Jane, that is interesting. Let's
say, when I visit a country with a strong muslim tradition, I become more
aware of my locally biased, non-active Christianity. |
05:56:59 |
Linley Joomjaroen |
has joined the chat. |
05:57:03 |
Jane Anderson |
I think I picked up on this - I'm asking how
could we online when the signals are multiple and subtle |
05:57:19 |
Michael Coghlan |
let me introduce a friend and colleague
- Linley! |
05:57:27 |
Michael Coghlan |
Welcome Linley! |
05:57:49 |
Linley Joomjaroen |
Hi everyone - let me watch while I catch
the threads of the conversation, please! |
05:57:53 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
hi, Linley |
05:57:59 |
Vance Stevens |
(waves to Linley) |
05:58:02 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I have never asked any members of the Webheads
community about their religious preferences. |
05:58:07 |
Aiden Yeh |
if you continously argue that your religion or
the religion that you believe in is the only true religion then, this could
be a problematic issue |
05:58:24 |
Michael Coghlan |
Yes - just as is in classrooms |
05:58:37 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I have a friend who often mail some silly
little jokes about catholic everyday matters, and often I do not find peculiar
or funny worth laughing |
05:59:06 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
religions or races do not matter if we
have other objectives in mind |
05:59:11 |
Peter Hillery 2 |
Hi Linley - I've only just arrived and am picking
up the threads also |
05:59:20 |
Michele Lamont-Smith |
Changing the subject a bit - Am I correct
that you are all based in your home countries at the moment? |
05:59:23 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Dafne, this is fun. We oftren get into
new directions in our discussions her, instead of having a strict agenda
|
05:59:24 |
Jane Anderson |
Exactly, Susanne, and religion is one example,
so in the online context what are some of the ways to be aware? |
05:59:31 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
you find them silly, Sus, others may feel
them offensive... |
05:59:33 |
Ismail Fayed |
. |
05:59:34 |
Vance Stevens |
here again, this can be annoying in an oline
or offline context |
05:59:39 |
Aiden Yeh |
there was one posted message about this, did
any of you read it? |
06:00:06 |
Vance Stevens |
how does ccc add to or detract from the issue?
|
06:00:20 |
Michael Coghlan |
Yes V - We seem to be identifying issues
that can be problematic in cross cultural communication. The central questioin
is....... |
06:00:31 |
Michael Coghlan |
how are things made worse or better online?
|
06:00:41 |
Jane Anderson |
Michele, I am based in my home country although
born in another and have lived in 3 others |
06:00:53 |
Ismail Fayed |
I agree with u Rita |
06:01:17 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
online I think we are more aware..., should
be! |
06:01:31 |
Vance Stevens |
(is not based in his home country) |
06:01:31 |
Michele Lamont-Smith |
Thanks Jane, It is very exciting to know
we are all so far apart...in distance |
06:01:44 |
Michael Coghlan |
Yes ...and we do that how Rita? |
06:01:45 |
Michele Lamont-Smith |
sorry back to the topic.. |
06:01:57 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
not based in her home country |
06:02:05 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
being aware, Michael? |
06:02:09 |
Marita Quaglio |
I think things can be made worse if you cannot
hear a persons voice and the smile in it. I seem to have read something
somewhere about smiles being a universal signal |
06:02:23 |
Linley Joomjaroen |
I wonder whether we use our imagination
successfully when we communicate online. |
06:02:23 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
grins |
06:02:29 |
Michael Coghlan |
:) |
06:02:37 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Marita, is that why the emotes are sdo
popular :-)) |
06:02:40 |
Vance Stevens |
has anyone here had an online ccc problem? |
06:02:48 |
Michele Lamont-Smith |
I find I learn alot more about my students
online than F2F |
06:02:57 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
not me, Vance |
06:03:03 |
Marita Quaglio |
Home country? Yes, now, but I was not born in
Australia |
06:03:06 |
Linley Joomjaroen |
because you are more explicit, M? |
06:03:09 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Ii agree with Michele |
06:03:17 |
Vance Stevens |
I mean one particular to the online context |
06:03:19 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
and in less time |
06:03:33 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
(problems I think are more with ourselves,
in feeling pressed to do the right thing all the time) |
06:03:38 |
Michael Coghlan |
Shun - if I make speak for here - has some
experience with CCC problems online. |
06:03:39 |
Michele Lamont-Smith |
people seem to tell you more about themselves
|
06:03:44 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Linley, I think that depends on the character
of the online communication,just like offline. I know a lot of ways to perform
imagination in our online life |
06:04:03 |
Jane Anderson |
we've had local community problems with online
- I think because its text and can't be taken back |
06:04:07 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
right, Michele |
06:04:33 |
Michele Lamont-Smith |
Susanne perform imagination? |
06:04:36 |
Marita Quaglio |
I guess so Susanne. It's a new language isn't
it. I know about the :-) but I have learnt about the other signs like (smiles
at Susanne) I like that |
06:04:40 |
Linley Joomjaroen |
Sounds like fun, S! |
06:04:43 |
Vance Stevens |
in my experience, ours if I speak for webheads,
I would say in the several years we have met our cc awareness has been enhanced,
rarely misunderstood |
06:04:50 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Yes, Jane - text is different from speech
but mikght also open for a better understanding of matters if you tend to
read back! |
06:05:04 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
agrees with Vance |
06:05:09 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
i agree with Vance |
06:05:26 |
Michael Coghlan |
I agree - my experience in webheads is
all about harmony not discord. |
06:05:38 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
learning and sharing |
06:05:38 |
Susanne Nyrop |
:junmps up and down with a tea try to ask
if you need a drink? |
06:06:04 |
Linley Joomjaroen |
yes, please! |
06:06:04 |
Susanne Nyrop |
:hands Michael hias guitar so he can sing
us a tune |
06:06:04 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
drinks some iced-coffee to cope with the
heat |
06:06:16 |
Susanne Nyrop |
:rolls up her sleeves |
06:06:25 |
Linley Joomjaroen |
snuggles under a blanket to stay warm!
|
06:06:34 |
Michele Lamont-Smith |
thanks Michael & webheads. I have to go,
it has been fun |
06:06:36 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
lol |
06:06:44 |
Susanne Nyrop |
wipes the swweat off her front |
06:06:45 |
Vance Stevens |
reading above, it seems that the speed of online
cc, the fact that it can't be taken back once easily sent ... this is a
problem? |
06:06:47 |
Michael Coghlan |
Thanks for coming Michelle |
06:06:47 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Bye, Michele |
06:06:48 |
Peter Hillery 2 |
I'll have a cup - all this listening is thirsty
work! |
06:06:50 |
Marita Quaglio |
I'm liking this more and more ! |
06:06:55 |
Susanne Nyrop |
The chat can be found later in our home
area |
06:07:01 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Waves bye to Michele |
06:07:05 |
Jane Anderson |
sinks into seat listening .... and learning |
06:07:10 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
(Webheads spirit present!) |
06:07:25 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Marita, did these small interrupstions
make you feel better? |
06:07:27 |
Ismail Fayed |
has joined the chat. |
06:07:35 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
wb, Ismail |
06:07:36 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Welcome back Ismael |
06:07:48 |
Marita Quaglio |
But my typing and reading speeds needs improving
|
06:07:58 |
Susanne Nyrop |
We allow ourselves to play a little |
06:07:58 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
it comes with practice, Marita |
06:08:12 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
why, Marita, its not any worse than mine...
|
06:08:12 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
as everything in life |
06:08:19 |
Shunichiro Ito |
Looks at so much words in the chat window
with jet-lag blurred mind. |
06:08:26 |
Ismail Fayed |
I am not sure if I am using this chat in a proper
way, but I am still exploring it ;) |
06:08:26 |
Michael Coghlan |
:) |
06:08:38 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I type small messages as fast as I think
(almost) - and i often just submiot them without thinking deeper |
06:08:39 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
way to go Ismail |
06:08:53 |
Michael Coghlan |
Peter - you're very quiet. Any comments
or questions? |
06:08:55 |
Marita Quaglio |
I'm feeling good thanks and ther's a beutiful
big full moon outside my window |
06:09:11 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Oh yes, shun, this chat window is far too
small and the scroll fiunction is not good |
06:09:19 |
Ismail Fayed |
thanks, daf |
06:09:23 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
loves full moon |
06:09:34 |
Jane Anderson |
its much quicker than I expected somehow - |
06:09:41 |
Michael Coghlan |
OK - back to the topic people..... |
06:09:44 |
Susanne Nyrop |
even often forget to proof read for typos
|
06:09:53 |
Peter Hillery 2 |
Michael - I'm just enjoying being a lurker for
a change - mostly in chats Im the facilitator - I'm enjoying the role change
|
06:09:53 |
Susanne Nyrop |
back to serious! |
06:09:53 |
Michael Coghlan |
do any webheads have a q thwey would like
to pose? |
06:09:55 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
listens attentively to Michael |
06:10:00 |
Vance Stevens |
I think also if there are conflicts online they
can be more easily resolved online than if they happened offline ... any
opinion on that? |
06:10:19 |
Michael Coghlan |
Wow - quite a statement |
06:10:36 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes, Vance, especially if you are using
synchronous modes |
06:10:49 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
maybe we are more ready to? |
06:10:59 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
because you can negotiate meanings immediately
|
06:11:06 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Vance, I hope you're right on that. But
I do wonder if some people might sometimes just stay away or silent if they
feel hurt in an onloine session |
06:11:18 |
Ismail Fayed |
Wow, this is nice, because we still have a shining
sun over here :) |
06:11:29 |
Michael Coghlan |
That's what I iamgine Susanne |
06:11:42 |
Susanne Nyrop |
But still I feel that it is how it usually
works, by negociating for a kind of consensus |
06:11:53 |
Marita Quaglio |
about conflict, I was thinking of the last paper
I read on the topic of ccc where there were some examples. It seemed to
take a lot of communications to sort them out but it did happen in the end
|
06:12:00 |
Vance Stevens |
some here appear to have had problems with perhaps
immature participants being a little quick on the draw |
06:12:00 |
Linley Joomjaroen |
perhaps becuase it's new, people are willing
to ask questions without seeming stupid so they clarify possible misunderstandings
|
06:12:45 |
Aiden Yeh |
i think that's what happened to one of my students,
she just kept quite and did not say anything while, the other wrote back
and apologize |
06:13:00 |
Vance Stevens |
at least onlne there is the possibility to moderate
and reason with those in conflict |
06:13:03 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Linley, that is so true! you need a safe
and supprtiive environment to dare ask all kind of questions, technical
as well as professional |
06:13:08 |
Marita Quaglio |
I'm also not so shy because I don't know anyone
(except Jane) but she's cool |
06:13:31 |
Aiden Yeh |
marita, was it about the students from Taiwan?
|
06:13:51 |
Vance Stevens |
there is a body of research to suggest that online
CMC enhances participation of weaker communicators |
06:13:51 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
do shy people find this medium easier?
|
06:13:55 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
so anonymity is a plus here |
06:13:55 |
Marita Quaglio |
That was it Aiden |
06:14:19 |
Linley Joomjaroen |
discovers how to wave back -hopefully!
|
06:14:23 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Rita - I do! :-) |
06:14:34 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
great, Linley |
06:14:34 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
:hugs Sus |
06:14:43 |
Vance Stevens |
Scanlon and Scanlon in the 70s comes to mind,
though I'm not near my reference materials |
06:14:44 |
Michael Coghlan |
You don't strike me as shy Susanne. Are
you? |
06:14:54 |
Ismail Fayed |
. |
06:15:05 |
Linley Joomjaroen |
she's very shy! |
06:15:08 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
she is so shy that she left |
06:15:10 |
Susanne Nyrop |
has joined the chat. |
06:15:19 |
Michael Coghlan |
and come back! |
06:15:23 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
lol |
06:15:23 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
(Sus IS shy,,;-)) |
06:15:26 |
Jane Anderson |
learning, learning: hugs Marita |
06:15:26 |
Aiden Yeh |
speaking of anonymity, this was the reason why
my students posted the kind of message in ruth vilmi's discussion board
|
06:15:53 |
Michael Coghlan |
Can you explain a bit more Aiden? |
06:16:33 |
Aiden Yeh |
causing the misunderstanding |
06:17:02 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Do you find that we are anonymous in the
Webheads community, Daf? We do have many ways to get people to present who
they are - photos, homepages documenting messages and postings, telling
personal matters - stepping out of the shadows |
06:17:18 |
Aiden Yeh |
in f2f classroom, taiwanese students, majority
of them are shy and reluctant to speak |
06:17:29 |
Marita Quaglio |
Yes I'm happy to go witht the flow. You are a
good moderator to consider that |
06:17:38 |
Michael Coghlan |
Ah...but online they WILL speak? |
06:17:38 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
no, we know each other well, Sus |
06:17:53 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
we are not anonymous in our Webhead community...
|
06:17:59 |
Vance Stevens |
photos are an important element I think |
06:18:04 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I love our photos and home pages |
06:18:08 |
Susanne Nyrop |
:hits daf with a paper flyer |
06:18:18 |
Shunichiro Ito |
It's more of fear in my students that keep
them from expressing. |
06:18:25 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
:turns her haid to avoid being hit |
06:18:28 |
Shunichiro Ito |
Not shyness. |
06:18:28 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
head |
06:18:35 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Aiden, were you surprised from the reaction
in the Vilmi sdession? |
06:19:14 |
Aiden Yeh |
taking for example, the case of Jean, in real
life she's very timid, but the kind of message "hello, i'm the most beautiful
studnet..and.. (mentioning a classmate's name) is so ugly" |
06:19:19 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Because of the photos I was able to recognize
Vance and Ismail when we met f2f |
06:19:31 |
Susanne Nyrop |
shun, what kind of fear do your young wo
students experience? |
06:20:03 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Sorry, Shun's students are young women
|
06:20:09 |
Shunichiro Ito |
Fear of not being able to properly express
themselves in the language they are learning. |
06:20:11 |
Aiden Yeh |
no, i wasn't surprised at all, as a matter of
fact, it was kinda, expected |
06:20:39 |
Linley Joomjaroen |
I wonder whether webheads are just yourselves
or has webheads created something special? |
06:20:56 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Do you think the problem was solved, was
the conficence from your teacher colleague coming back after this incident,
Aiden? |
06:21:07 |
Aiden Yeh |
i'm afraid that they are traumatized to join
future online discussions |
06:21:12 |
Peter Hillery 2 |
Aiden - in your paper - i was more surprised
that Vilmi was not more understanding - rather than surprised at the student's
reaction |
06:21:12 |
Vance Stevens |
(wonders how long this session lasts, as may
have to be going soon) |
06:21:21 |
Vance Stevens |
Hello everybody from the Czech Republic |
06:21:30 |
Michael Coghlan |
About another 10 min Vance |
06:21:55 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Webheads is a large community of language
teachers and learners from all over the world, Linley |
06:22:08 |
Vance Stevens |
Aiden, can you send me the url to your paper
through the webheads lists please? |
06:22:08 |
Ismail Fayed |
has joined the chat. |
06:22:21 |
Michael Coghlan |
so I guess we are senstive to CCC issues
|
06:22:29 |
Vance Stevens |
A Czech English teacher has just used Vance's
address and joined the discussion |
06:22:33 |
Aiden Yeh |
the problem was solved, no doubt, but, the confidence
of the students, that needs some building up |
06:22:35 |
Linley Joomjaroen |
I mean, individually, are you special when
you communicate with each other - happy, stimulated etc |
06:22:38 |
Jane Anderson |
its all gone in a flash - and where does it go?
into c-space? |
06:22:42 |
Vance Stevens |
The reason there are two vance's here is that
I send Lenka the url to join us |
06:22:45 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
we have some emails lists and we meet every
Sunday at noon GMT |
06:23:21 |
Aiden Yeh |
Michael, can you do the honor of giving Vance
the URL to my paper? |
06:23:21 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
the Webheads community started in 1998,
If I am not wrong |
06:23:22 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Linley, Webheads has created something
in me I was not really aware of! I know how to nake many things online,
but not that I was also good at working together with others to explore
it as a critical friend and study mate.And, we cna also be very serious,
talk about personal or professional matters. That depends on the situation.
|
06:23:26 |
Michael Coghlan |
I only see 1 Vance but if you are here
Lenka - then hello! |
06:23:27 |
Vance Stevens |
apparently that containmed my logon info, though
I will vouch for Lenka :-)) |
06:23:28 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
we are all stimulated, yes, Linley, respected,
pampered...;-) |
06:23:58 |
Linley Joomjaroen |
yes, I suspected something special |
06:24:18 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
does it feel? |
06:24:20 |
Michael Coghlan |
I seriously think webheads have discovered
the formula to make CMC work |
06:24:21 |
Aiden Yeh |
I do feel special, being a webhead |
06:24:21 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
there is a strong tie |
06:25:04 |
Vance Stevens |
(the real Vance refreshes his chat screen) |
06:25:13 |
Ismail Fayed |
we should be comprehesible towards this word,
I guess. |
06:25:15 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Webheads opened the online world to me
|
06:25:17 |
Susanne Nyrop |
The good ideas often come up in the middle
of nothing special in our weekly meetings, and you see how easy it was for
Michael to call for his supporters to this event - this is not the first
time we meet like this |
06:25:50 |
Vance Stevens |
(real vance) anyone can become a webhead. It's
kind of like being a cyber-hippy |
06:25:50 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Ismael, which word? I did not get it |
06:26:11 |
Shunichiro Ito |
Trying to follow the discussion, Michael.
|
06:26:11 |
Ismail Fayed |
me too Aiden |
06:26:12 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
love and peace |
06:26:28 |
Linley Joomjaroen |
I wonder whether webheads is really cross
cultural, thought, or wether you have created your own cyber culture ? |
06:26:47 |
Michael Coghlan |
It's both Linley |
06:26:50 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
any community creates its own culture |
06:26:53 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
both things, |
06:26:54 |
Michael Coghlan |
yes |
06:26:57 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
;-) |
06:26:58 |
Peter Hillery 2 |
webhead friends - I have enjoyed your paper in
nw2002 and this conversation (even though i haven't participated) |
06:27:17 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
smiles gratefully to Peter |
06:27:18 |
Ismail Fayed |
Something wrong with the chat here, I see one
line then a dozen lines when i refresh the window this is why u see it late
or not on the proper place, Sus. |
06:27:20 |
Vance Stevens |
Interensting point Linley, but if we are our
own culture then it interacts with otehr cultures as people join us online
|
06:27:29 |
Peter Hillery 2 |
I will join a webhead chat sometime - 12 noon
GMT sundays? whats the URL? |
06:27:39 |
Aiden Yeh |
we talked about being ourselves while being a
webhead, can this be possible to EFL students, |
06:27:45 |
Linley Joomjaroen |
maybe, or maybe they just pick up the signals
and join in, V |
06:27:46 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Like herding cats and the intuitive chaos
management, some analogies that we have adapted and elaborated to decribe
some of the ays we interact and work. |
06:27:48 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
http://www.tappedin.org |
06:27:49 |
Michael Coghlan |
Cheers Peter - I gather you're leaving.
tappedin.org |
06:27:59 |
Vance Stevens |
Lenka Every Webhead can add a bit of webheadculture
to their national ones.. |
06:28:15 |
Michael Coghlan |
Are there other issues anyone would like
to raise in the few minutes we have left? |
06:28:15 |
Peter Hillery 2 |
thanks |
06:28:16 |
Shunichiro Ito |
To Aiden, depends which EFL students you
are talking about. |
06:28:23 |
Ismail Fayed |
. |
06:28:49 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
we go around cyberspace spreading our webheads
cutlture |
06:29:02 |
Aiden Yeh |
Asian, Taiwanese for example |
06:29:28 |
Peter Hillery 2 |
I've got to go to bed - its 11:30 pm in the land
of Oz |
06:29:41 |
Aiden Yeh |
but if being themselves gets them into trouble,
how's this possible? |
06:29:42 |
Michael Coghlan |
11.00 in Adelaide |
06:29:42 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
sleep tight, Peter |
06:29:42 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Dafne has become a true Webheads missionaire
|
06:29:54 |
Aiden Yeh |
nite, peter |
06:29:56 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
look forward to seeing you at Webheads
place.. |
06:30:09 |
Peter Hillery 2 |
good night all - and thanks for everything! |
06:30:10 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
and we are looking forward to seeing you
at our sunday meetings |
06:30:17 |
Susanne Nyrop |
We will meet again in eleven hours, right?
|
06:30:30 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I guess so, Sus |
06:30:32 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
ribght, SUS!!! |
06:30:32 |
Michael Coghlan |
Jane and Marita - any last comments, q's?
|
06:30:33 |
Susanne Nyrop |
The log from this chat should be somewhere
online later |
06:30:33 |
Peter Hillery 2 |
yep Susanne! |
06:30:38 |
Aiden Yeh |
LOL, that's right, sus |
06:30:39 |
Ismail Fayed |
. |
06:30:45 |
Peter Hillery 2 |
... in Rabaul - PNG |
06:30:49 |
Jane Anderson |
so soon, wonderful! |
06:30:55 |
Vance Stevens |
I must away myself, dinner time here in Pushkar
|
06:31:02 |
Peter Hillery 2 |
bye - I mean it this time |
06:31:06 |
Michael Coghlan |
OK. let;s wrap it up.... |
06:31:06 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Good to have yuou with us Vance |
06:31:06 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
it's late lunch time for me |
06:31:06 |
Shunichiro Ito |
Bye, Vance. |
06:31:14 |
Michael Coghlan |
..this all happens again in 11 hours time!
|
06:31:18 |
Linley Joomjaroen |
Great to meet you all! |
06:31:18 |
Vance Stevens |
Lenka What about national identity as Webheads
- do you feel it strong as members of a webbased group? |
06:31:22 |
Jane Anderson |
bibibib for now :) |
06:31:25 |
Aiden Yeh |
Marita, I hope that we were able to answer your
question somehow |
06:31:26 |
Susanne Nyrop |
But with a totally different bias? |
06:31:26 |
Vance Stevens |
all veg, no meat or beer here that I have seen
|
06:31:36 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
bye Jane, nice to see you |
06:31:49 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
bye, Jane! |
06:31:51 |
Michael Coghlan |
Thank you all for your participation. The
official part of this chat is over! |
06:31:51 |
Marita Quaglio |
Thanks for this chat. I'll tune in tomorrow if
I can. (wonders what time is 12 GMT next Sunday)r |
06:31:51 |
Susanne Nyrop |
>Indian veggie dishes are very hot and
good |
06:32:12 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Marita, what time do you have now? |
06:32:12 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I love indian food |
06:32:16 |
Vance Stevens |
(real Vance) pan-nationalistic we are |
06:32:32 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
and now the food part ...;-) |
06:32:33 |
Vance Stevens |
nice to see everyone |
06:32:33 |
Linley Joomjaroen |
Goodnight everyone, thanks for the chat!
|
06:32:42 |
Michael Coghlan |
Night Linley |
06:32:42 |
Aiden Yeh |
short, but lively discussion |
06:32:43 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
bye Linley, thanks for coming |
06:32:45 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
thank you, Linlley! |
06:32:47 |
Michael Coghlan |
Have a curry for me Vance |
06:32:47 |
Vance Stevens |
I'll join you from my desk in Abu Dhabi next
sunday noon GMT |
06:32:47 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Bye Linley, come back to our discussion
anytime |
06:32:55 |
Vance Stevens |
hope to see everyone there |
06:32:55 |
Ismail Fayed |
Michael |
06:32:56 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
rice with curry |
06:33:03 |
Michael Coghlan |
Ismail? |
06:33:04 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
and mango chutney please VAnce |
06:33:04 |
Susanne Nyrop |
dhal with rice |
06:33:08 |
Vance Stevens |
(lays a finger aside of his nose ... |
06:33:18 |
Aiden Yeh |
bye, guys, nitey nite |
06:33:22 |
Susanne Nyrop |
spinach and curry |
06:33:25 |
Marita Quaglio |
It's 11.30 at night ooooh the moon |
06:33:26 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
bye Aiden |
06:33:34 |
Michael Coghlan |
Night Aiden - Thank you. Cya tomorrow?
|
06:33:41 |
Ismail Fayed |
I think this is one of the most funny and nice
sessions I had !! |
06:33:41 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
say hello to the moon for me, Marita |
06:33:41 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
Ismail has had a problem with his computer,
i think |
06:34:01 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
ah, you are there, Ismail! |
06:34:03 |
Michael Coghlan |
Pleased to hear you folund it funny and
nice Ismail |
06:34:09 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Ismail cannot get to TI |
06:34:15 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Even if your chat field was tricky, Ismael?
|
06:34:19 |
Ismail Fayed |
I think this is one of the most funny and nice
sessions I had !! |
06:34:32 |
Marita Quaglio |
Good night all and enjoy the curry etc |
06:34:32 |
Shunichiro Ito |
Walking toward his bed mumbling about getting
enough sleep before tomorrow's session. |
06:34:32 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Oh,I forgot - we mostly meet in the mail
list :-) |
06:34:32 |
Michael Coghlan |
Who can be here at tomorrow's session?
|
06:34:35 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Ismail fell in in love with the parrot
feature |
06:34:56 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I will, Michael |
06:34:58 |
Susanne Nyrop |
:bows deeply to sleepy Shun |
06:35:11 |
Susanne Nyrop |
|
06:35:24 |
Shunichiro Ito |
Bye all. |
06:35:28 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
(its been like a Sunday session, familiar,
cosy..., hasnt it?) |
06:35:29 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
bye, Shun |
06:35:51 |
Susanne Nyrop |
has joined the chat. |
06:35:53 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
a short Sunday session |
06:35:54 |
Michael Coghlan |
OK - time to go. Enjoy the day evderyone.
Or bed. Till next time. |
06:36:04 |
Susanne Nyrop |
has joined the chat. |
06:36:09 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
bye, Michael thanks for everything |
06:36:19 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Did I leave and ocme back? |
06:36:21 |
Michael Coghlan |
My pleasure Daf |
06:36:23 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes, Sus |
06:36:28 |
Michael Coghlan |
Ciao |
06:36:32 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
ciao |
06:36:38 |
Ismail Fayed |
I see it funny, because it comes to me part as
a synchronous chat and another part as a "asynchronous" on the same time
|
06:36:43 |
Rita Zeinstejer |
bye, people, CU later! |
06:36:51 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
bye Rita |
06:36:52 |
Susanne Nyrop |
again I hit the return arrow :-) |
06:37:04 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Interesting, Ismael |
06:37:05 |
Ismail Fayed |
I found part of it like it discussion techniques,
then a thread of mesages as in any chat page ! |
06:37:09 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Sus, have you seen my self-portrait? |
06:37:27 |
Susanne Nyrop |
No, daf' |
06:37:35 |
Susanne Nyrop |
How can I see it in an easy manner? |
06:37:37 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I posted to the blog section |
06:37:43 |
Ismail Fayed |
But, pleasent, becuase I have all these webheads
and other colleagues and I am really happy to be among you all :) |
06:37:56 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
thanks, Ismail, same here |
06:38:13 |
Susanne Nyrop |
aha - I was not aware, I saw the blo was
opened, but nobody has poasted anything yet |
06:38:26 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes, there are some things there already
|
06:39:01 |
Jane Anderson |
See you tomorrow, bi for now |
06:39:10 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
bye, Jane, thanks for coming |
06:39:10 |
Susanne Nyrop |
many Ismael, I you find other interesting
areas in this conference, like Daf & Myszelf do :-) |
06:39:24 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Oh Jane, see you around |
06:39:42 |
Susanne Nyrop |
one really has to fast on the keys |
06:40:14 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
ok, kids, I got to go get some lunch and
write a paper |
06:40:24 |
Ismail Fayed |
I have to go now, and looking forward to see
you all tomorrow. |
06:40:27 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I need to open a second window so as not
to lose my chat, to explore the blog area |
06:40:32 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I am leaving on Friday |
06:40:39 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Bye,m bye Ismael |
06:40:48 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
and have many things to get done before
that |
06:41:05 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Yes, you will lose the rest of our fun
here :-) |
06:41:05 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
professional stuff and house chores |
06:41:18 |
Ismail Fayed |
bye |
06:41:19 |
Susanne Nyrop |
WE did have a fine session right now I
think |
06:41:22 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I will try to connect daily from somewhere
|
06:41:28 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yes, I liked it |
06:41:39 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
especially when we started being ourselvs
|
06:41:44 |
Susanne Nyrop |
a good mixture of refelctive wuestioning
and instant ideas |
06:41:53 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yeap |
06:42:19 |
Ismail Fayed |
Bye, Sus and Daf. have fun :) |
06:42:30 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
you too, Ismail :-)) |
06:42:44 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
Sus, see you later |
06:42:49 |
Susanne Nyrop |
When I left this late night, Bronwyn said
to me that she preferred to use the "protocol for chat" - not the very organic
style |
06:42:58 |
Susanne Nyrop |
:hugs you!!! |
06:43:09 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
She asked me if we had met |
06:43:20 |
Susanne Nyrop |
I think I have seen her in Tapped IN |
06:43:26 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
I do not remember her |
06:43:40 |
Susanne Nyrop |
But because of time zones we do not cross
often |
06:44:02 |
Susanne Nyrop |
She also mentioned her virtual office in
tapped In |
06:44:19 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
that's where she might remembeer me from
|
06:44:20 |
Susanne Nyrop |
So now we can check her out ansd see who
she is there :-) |
06:44:34 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
yeap ;-) |
06:44:35 |
Susanne Nyrop |
maybe she came for the carnival? |
06:44:52 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
well, see you later, I am starve and my
fish is waiting for me |
06:45:05 |
Susanne Nyrop |
Tell that fish to swim no more |
06:45:10 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
lol |
06:45:12 |
Susanne Nyrop |
enjoy |
06:45:19 |
Dafne Gonzalez |
hugs Sus bye |